@publicvoit@jblake the best thing of obsidian is that they are just txt files and hopefully we will be able to at least read them no matter what we system we use (I think we can even use a Commodore 64 to read those files)
@publicvoit +1 in general. I believe your recommendation is phrased wrong, though.
Emacs and org-mode lock you in just like Markdown + Obsidian do.
It's waaaaaay less likely you'll be screwed, though, because Emacs is free software.
But that's not the same argument.
While Emacs is maintained, you can get the editor to run on your operating system. If by chance it dies off, you can tweak the source yourself, but for regular Jane and Joe that's the same as company goes bancrupt.
It's still lock-in in the end. And it's factually wrong to say it isn't. Just as there can be Emacs bancruptcy. -- Of course you don't mean it in a strict, literal sense, but a colloquial one.
I have no issues parsing this :)
But the aftertaste is one of misleading rhetoric tricks that you do not need.
There's no Emacs+org supremacy over Obsidian+Markdown on this (!) level of analysis.
@publicvoit Sorry this all sounds way too negative!
It's this: your warning against hype is accurate, and Emacs + org is also a great recommendation if longevity is important.
By claiming there's no lock-in, your position gets weaker (easier to topple) because your argument is stronger (more specific). So you make your point more vulnerable without need, because what's left is still ace 👍
@ctietze@publicvoit Yeah, putting time, energy, and content in Org-mode via Emacs is totally a form of lock in. It's maybe more benevolent than other kinds of lock-in, but you're still "stuck" with Emacs and some specifically-formatted "plain?" text .org files.
I happen to love and prefer Emacs and those weird .org files, though! 😆
But really, if any of them went away, I'd just take a few days and move to something else. It would hurt, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
@publicvoit Did you have a chance to look at Logseq? I supports a lot of org-mode syntax, and it's open source. The only thing I miss right now is the level of Jira integration I had in Emacs.
@publicvoit Not worried about #Obsidian failing, as all my files are on my computer. I also have been using #DEVONthink for almost as long as it has been around (15 years or so, may e longer?) and it is a solid app that has never failed. AND all the files are kept on my computer, too. Both are indispensable to me.
@publicvoit so true... I saw this post the other day, and I thought it was hilarious https://social.lol/@hl/110684727572990514 ... When you do use org-mode some crazy people think that for some strange reason you'd want to shoot yourself in the foot and replace it for Obsidian.
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