ronald, 26 days ago

@boilingsteam ah is @thunderbird also going to be “privately” reading my mails now?

thunderbird, 25 days ago

@ronald @boilingsteam https://www.thunderbird.net/en-CA/#free-from-manipulation

turbobob, 26 days ago

@boilingsteam

Well, @mozilla should definitely make sure that it's off by default. Opt-in ONLY.

Maybe nobody will say yes, but hey that's the price of respecting your users: asking for their true consent.

Still. Most other browsers probably won't even ask you, warn you, nor even give you the possibility to opt out. I wouldn't trust most alternatives to respect my consent at all.

As Mozilla reminds you in that very blog post: you can easily opt out once and for all from any of these studies.

turbobob, 26 days ago

@boilingsteam @mozilla

Direct link to the step-by-step guide which they actually already provide in their blog post: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/share-data-mozilla-help-improve-firefox

Kzad_Bhat, 26 days ago

@turbobob @boilingsteam @mozilla

So now they hide search data under telemetry... Talk about learning from Orwell and using doublespeak to cover what you mean.

turbobob, 26 days ago

@Kzad_Bhat @boilingsteam @mozilla I don't see ill intent there; see the blog post.

My guess would be that they hear people insisting that awful stuff like Google products and other tools from privacy-nightmare specialists are "convenient" and "powerful".... And that they therefore now try to appeal to such users, doing it in a more privacy-respecting way than Google would use. Except that they might alienate people who already use Firefox.

Personally I love dumb tools. Let me do the thinking.