danyork,
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Advocates for #ActivityPub - IF YOU HAVE A #WORDPRESS SITE, have you installed the ActivityPub plugin? https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/

At the State of the Word address this week, Matt Mullenweg was asked about support for the plugin, and he commented that less than 5,000 sites had installed it. So he wasn't sure how interested people are in it.

So... if you have a WP site, let's start installing that plugin and making more sites available via ActivityPub! 😀

#StateOfTheWord #SotW

researchbuzz,
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bowbrick,

@danyork I installed it and found it caused the admin site to grind to a halt so I had to deactivate it. Time to try again I guess!

warrows,

@danyork was he talking about plugins enabled on all WordPress installs or on wordpress.com?

danyork,
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@warrows He was talking about installations of the plugin in WordPress installs. When you install from the central plugin repository, they gather a count of how many sites have installed a plugin. And that number shows on the plugin page, and can help give people considering a plugin a sense of how actively the plugin is used.

Right now it says:

Active Installations: 4000+

airwhale,
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@danyork @Gargron

Yes, it has been installed for some time. This week I also got it working 🙂

alexskunz,
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@danyork I tried it, but saw my server logs flooded with countless requests for ActivityPub stuff that the plugin doesn't handle.

/api*
/webfinger*
/statistics*
/poco*

(yes, I keep an eye on my server logs, for reasons, and installing the plugin turned them into a hot mess)

danyork,
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@alexskunz Oh, interesting! I guess I should go look at my server logs, eh? 😀

EricLawton,

@danyork

On WordPress.com, you need a business level account, which is quite expensive, before you can install plugins.

But now you can just use an admin option to federate, without a plugin. I did it recently, quite easy.

Maybe that's why so few are using the plugin.

danyork,
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@EricLawton Yes, as you note, WordPress.com already has the same functionality built-in. No need for the plugin.

There are millions and millions of other WordPress servers out there, though, and they are the target for the plugin.

vegetarianzombie,
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@danyork The documentation for this plugin is not great. Out of the box, this wasn't a good fit for my site and reading the docs to customize it, didn't help me at all. So I uninstalled it.

Not saying my issues aren't addressable but well written documentation goes a long way.

danyork,
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@vegetarianzombie Totally hear you on the value of good documentation! Sorry to hear it didn't work well for your site.

StephenRees,
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@danyork Well I use WordPress but through wordpress.com - so I can't use any plug ins.

danyork,
@danyork@mastodon.social avatar

@StephenRees Actually, with WordPress.com, the ActivityPub functionality is already there!

Just go into Settings -> Discussion and there is an "Enter the Fediverse" switch. Simple and easy.

More info: https://wordpress.com/blog/2023/10/11/activitypub/

petergarner,
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@danyork @StephenRees So I have a blog on wordpress.com, and it appears that adding the ActivityPub plugin requires a paid account.

Does this “Enter the Fediverse" toggle give me the same functionality without having to go to a paid plan?

danyork,
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@petergarner @StephenRees Yes, on WordPress.com they have already installed the functionality (back in October). So all you need to do is toggle that button.

More here: https://wordpress.com/blog/2023/10/11/activitypub/

Smrki,
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@danyork You can activate the plugin only if you have a business plan if you host with Wordpress. So much for Matt Mullenweg comments. He seems to be just a Zuckerberg in hiding.

danyork,
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@Smrki By "if you host with WordPress", do you mean using WordPress.com ?

If so, you don't need a plugin at all, the ActivityPub function is already included.

Just go to Settings -> Discussion and click "Enter the Fediverse" !

More info here: https://wordpress.com/blog/2023/10/11/activitypub/

lispi314,
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@danyork @73ms It requiring manual enabling does add the adoption hurdle that only those who heard of it will know to enable it, unlike RSS.

danyork,
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@lispi314 @73ms True... although at the moment the whole thing requires some extra work.

After you enable it, initially it's highly unlikely that anyone will be able to find your new ActivityPub-enabled site on the Fediverse.

You'll probably need to manually follow your site from your Mastodon account. That will then bring the ActivityPub ID into your Mastodon instance... and then from there others may find it.

This is all really early days.

MartyFouts,
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@danyork There is a problem for Wordpress blogs hosted on other hosting sites that the developers of the plugin are not in a position to address: many such hosting sites, including Dreamhost who host my blog, have modified html servers that break the activitypub plugin. It is often difficult to find the necessary workarounds, and the hosting companies have not been willing to work with the plugin developers.

danyork,
@danyork@mastodon.social avatar

@MartyFouts Ugh... I'm seeing similar comments from others. 🙁

That is very unfortunate. Hopefully that will change over time.

tasket,

@danyork If most of these WP sites are individuals, what kind of impact does that have on overall fedi performance?

danyork,
@danyork@mastodon.social avatar

@tasket A good question - and I don't have the answer.

phonner,
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@danyork I was really excited to use this but after installing and much debugging finally realized it won't work for my self-hosted #Wordpress site because the hosting company's firewall blocks some of the necessary requests.

danyork,
@danyork@mastodon.social avatar

@phonner 🤦‍♂️ Ugh... that's unfortunate. 😞

bedirthan,
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@danyork my traffic went up about 25% just by clicking the connect to ActivityPub

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