ErikJonker, Dutch
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Let's not forget Israel will never destroy the terrorist organisation Hamas by attacks on Gaza and/or by fully occupying it. Hamas can only be destroyed by offering the palestinians some alternative for their future, some perspective, which seems to be completely lacking until now.
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Properganda,
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@ErikJonker @geopolitics How many times should they be offered?

jonbanquer,
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@ErikJonker @geopolitics

Eighty percent of the Palestinians still support Hamas. A two state solution isn't possible at this time. Re-education will be necessary. Palestinians don't wish for a two state solution. They want Israel gone and a one state solution.

ErikJonker,
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@jonbanquer @geopolitics I understand your point but reading the history of this conflict from 1948 until now, some state of peaceful co-existence is the only way out for both parties. Also let's not forget it's not only about Gaza but also about the West Bank.

jonbanquer,
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@ErikJonker @geopolitics

The answer is other Arab countries finally getting involved to re-educate Palestinians and to help create a government that accepts Israel and rejects Iran. Lots of work needs to be done!

Hadewych,
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@jonbanquer @ErikJonker @geopolitics you believe other Arab countries will aid a Palistinian democracy and rule of law? Respect for political equality and human rights is the only education that'll work for any nation.

jonbanquer,
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@Hadewych @ErikJonker @geopolitics

Yes, I believe it's the only thing that will work. Clearly trying to wipe Israel off the map isn't working for Palestinians.

Hadewych,
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@jonbanquer @ErikJonker @geopolitics nor is the other way around

jonbanquer,
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Ibex,
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@jonbanquer @ErikJonker @geopolitics If we are looking for a solution of co-existance, we shouldn't have a state founded on ethnicity or religion. The US has to re-educate the Israeli to help create a democratic state for all the people that live in it.

jonbanquer,
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@Ibex @ErikJonker @geopolitics

How many Arabs currently live in Israel? How many Jews currently live in Gaza?

jonbanquer,
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@Ibex @ErikJonker @geopolitics

Israel is probably going to re-educate Biden and do what needs to be done in Rafah. They most likely already have the munitions to do it.

By the time the DNC hits Chicago it will be all over for Biden as pro-Palestine groups have been planning protests for well over a year. I expect the Chicago protests to result in widespread violence and rioting like America hasn't seen since the 60's.

Biden has decided to appease Iran, Hamas and the radical left-wing of the Democratic party.

Appeasement never works.

Properganda,
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@jonbanquer @Ibex @ErikJonker @geopolitics

I hope you’re wrong, but fear you might be right. Biden is sadly btwn a rock & hard place thanks to corrupt Bibi & the looney Left ie brainwashed TikTok generation. Too bad Agent Orange didn’t ban like he said he would.

jonbanquer,
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@Properganda @Ibex @ErikJonker @geopolitics

The core of all of this is an Obama/Biden policy that appeases Iran. Biden refuses to recognize this policy is a complete and utter failure.

I decided on my avatar for this reason. We have been at war with Iran for 40 years. It's time to end it. Iran needs a regime change.

Properganda,
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@Ibex @jonbanquer @ErikJonker @geopolitics

Thanks for exposing your ignorance & bias.

Ibex,
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@Properganda @jonbanquer @ErikJonker @geopolitics Wow! You really won over that straw man!

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