jimmac, to random
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The layers upon layers of compositing in all this is boggling the mind of the ZX Spectrum kid.

#epiphany #gnomeweb #web #libadwaita

Web rendering a video background with crazy noise texture shifting around as a client size grain.

valpackett, to firefox

I've been very light on #firefox addon usage but started using Simple Tab Groups yesterday and it's so amazing

nekohayo,
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@valpackett
STG has been an integral part of my daily workflow for the past 5 years, and it is a non-negotiable #productivity tool for me (I have about 70 tab groups, as I work across many long-term projects).

It is so fundamental to self-organization & performance in #Firefox (with the discard option) that I've requested the concept of tab workspaces for #GNOMEWeb / #Epiphany, if anyone wants to work on implementing that: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/epiphany/-/issues/1835

trashhalo, to technology in A list of recent hostile moves by #Google's #Chrome team (Jeff Fortin T. (@nekohayo@mastodon.social))

Reformatting body to be readable:

A list of recent hostile moves by ’s team; handy for sharing with your entourage, to explain why they should stop using / and use or as their main :

bragefuglseth, to GNOME
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The term «workspace» in is a little misleading sometimes. It’s completely OK, and sometimes even preferrable, to use multiple workspaces for a single task. An example that comes to mind is my illustration workflow: mazimized in one workspace, and , , and sometimes , in another. Workflows like this one will become much more convenient with the planned window management changes. Try to see if you can do your tasks similarly!

silmathoron, to firefox
@silmathoron@floss.social avatar

Reminder that if you don't want to use (whatever the reason), you can always check other -based or related browsers such as:

There are also privacy-respecting -based browsers like:

nekohayo, (edited ) to firefox
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#Epiphany / #WebKitGTK / #WebKit is all fun and games until you run into a blank page loading heisenbug with Google Calendar, install 6 GB of debug packages, bypass the sandboxing, do a "thread apply all bt", see the #gdb process eat up over 18 gigabytes of RAM and you are forced to urgently shutdown Firefox to have enough RAM to be able to get the #debugging backtrace all the way to thread no1... only to be told that there's nothing suspicious shown at the end of the backtrace after all 🥲️

tbernard, to random
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Philip Withnall's talk on reducing network and power use just started!

nekohayo,
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@tbernard Evolution and GNOME Software are already capable of handling #NetworkManager's "metered connection" property; would be nice if #Epiphany and #Firefox would take this into account and load less stuff (but what?)

But we need https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/2199 for the feature to be discoverable for #GNOME users, for starters.

silvereagle, to random

I posted about switching to Firefox as my "daily driver" browser as a little tiny step away from Chromium browser hegemony, and I had a ton of people in the replies suggesting I should just use Brave or Edge or Opera or Vivaldi instead.

I'm a little concerned that people don't realize just how pervasive this problem is. Every single one of those sits on top of the Chromium codebase.

paoloredaelli,
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@j3j5
I wish #webkit - that I like remember having sprouted from #KDE - had a wider place on the web. OK #apple and #gnome #epiphany use it but the list of unusable site with them is sadly too long! 😢
@silvereagle @jhansen

nekohayo, to GNOME
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As @kdwk revealed, the "Canary" and "Technology Preview" versions of #Epiphany + #WebKitGTK 2.42, which will become #GNOME #Web 45, now support the #JPEGXL #JXL image format by default: https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/155lt33/introducing_jpegxl_support_in_the_gnome_ecosystem/

Now that #WebKit, #Safari, Epiphany, etc. support this, I really hope we will see #Mozilla finish the job and flip the switch in #Firefox too, based on @krosylight's great work.

Hopefully then the #GoogleChrome team will acknowledge that yes, everybody in the #webdev industry wants this.

nekohayo, to GNOME
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It turns out that one the #performance issues I discovered some days ago in #GNOME #Web (where resources are not freed when closing a browser window) was caused by… a speed optimization previously made in the #Epiphany #opensource #Linux #browser … nearly 20 years ago 👀

No surprise then that it wasn't a #WebKitGTK issue, it even predates #WebKit ! 😂 https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/epiphany/-/issues/2130

skye, to random German

hello tech support i have a problem

i use #epiphany / #gnomeWeb as a browser. i need to make a custom CSS. epiphany has a buton for that in the settings. the button is supposed to open a text editor. it does nothing. presumably because it does not know which text editor to use. because i do not have a way to set this through gnome settings or otherwise. because i do not have gnome.

nekohayo, (edited ) to GNOME
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Tonight, I added some more #profiling info on this strange #WebKitGTK issue, where #GNOME #Web (#Epiphany) takes 10x longer than other web browsers (like Firefox and Chromium) to load some websites, on the same #Linux stack. If you have other ideas of info to provide to debug this, I'm all ears. We're talking about 10-20 seconds instead of 1-4 seconds!

I suspect that fixing this #performance issue might speed up loading for most websites, including various web apps 🤞️ https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251336

nekohayo, to linux
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Continued some performance issue today, this one about significant CPU usage when idle on any logged-in page on Trello.com, even on .

It seems to be spamming the compositor when websites request animation frames even while there's nothing to relayout or repaint. Hopefully optimizing WebKitGTK to handle this would improve perfs / lower power consumption on other sites too. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252545

nathandyer, to random

Taking the nightly version of GNOME Web / Epiphany for a spin. The new Tab Overview / libadwaita widgets are stunning. If performance is reasonable enough, I might just make this my daily driver.

The new Tab Overview in GNOME Web, again with a handful of tabs open.

ozamidas,
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@amxmln @nathandyer now imagine using a raspberry pi as your main computer and trying to run it...

#Epiphany has a lot of potential, it just needs the performance to back it up.

fatboy, to GNOME
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Anyone working on a new browser engine?
Something that's definitely not Chromium.

I quite like Goanna and WebKit. Wish both had more devs behind it. Goanna is very light on resources though, but can struggle with these 6 TB perpetual JavaScript websites of today.

lazarus, to random

Little reminder, that @kde ‘s #KHTML made its way through Apple, returned as #WebKit (#webkitgtk2) to the free desktops and still is a free and one of the most portable browser engines working well and serving as an alternative to #Gecko and #Blink.

Just ran it on a #PPC machine from 2004 yesterday.

lazarus,

That said I should tag and thank @gnome and its brave people contributing to the project like Michael Catanzaro and Alexander Mikhaylenko (@alex_m) (https://www.openhub.net/p/epiphany/contributors/summary). #gnome #webkitgtk #epiphany

RL_Dane, to random
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Man, gotta say that #Gnome #Web (#Epiphany) is pretty great.

Tidy, performant little #WebKit browser. It even supports #Firefox Sync! WHAT!!
And has a Site-Specific Browser (SSB) mode!

"What am I doing with my life?!?" lol

I know I criticize Gnome a lot (rather excessively?), but Gnome Web and Gnome Boxes seriously pay their rent on my machine. Excellent, excellent apps.

It only lacks container tabs and ublock origin to become my default.

maxleibman, to random
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Here is your annual reminder that it is completely appropriate to leave decorations up and continue listening to Christmas music until #Epiphany, which is January 6.
🎄🎄🎄

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