Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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This one is probably just days away from folding. BEVs are ultimately just a fad, and society would be wise to pursue alternative solutions to green transportation.

https://jalopnik.com/fisker-is-running-out-of-options-as-stock-trading-halts-1851363538

#EV #BEV #fisker

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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More data that demand for BEVs has plateaued. Even more damning when you realize that governments have subsidized them out the wazoo, and nearly all car manufacturers are selling them at a loss. Like I said in the past, this is a greenwashing fad. There will come a time when they get relegated to the "has-been" list alongside flexfuel and diesel cars.

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/1-in-8-new-cars-sold-in-europe-is-an-ev-but-the-growth-is-glacial/

#EV #BEV

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Reminder that the market is hemorrhaging cash on BEVs. This is not a viable business. It will scale down, regardless of what anyone tells you.

https://jalopnik.com/automakers-lose-6-000-on-every-electric-car-they-sell-1851355133

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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America Focusing On Electric Cars And Not Plug-In Hybrids Was A Huge Mistake

https://www.theautopian.com/america-focusing-on-electric-cars-and-not-plug-in-hybrids-was-a-huge-mistake/

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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The first of many “relaxations.” The problem is that the BEV is a bad idea, and is basically just a greenwashing fad as it is being pushed right now. The market for them simply won’t materialize, and eventually we will relegate BEVs to the same corner we sent flexfuel and diesel cars to.

https://apnews.com/article/passenger-vehicles-emissions-limits-epa-d7ab151323383dfeea0dd5d07e100abc

#EV #BEV

jeffowski, to random
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EVs tend to shed around 20 percent more from their tires due to their higher weight and torque. https://trib.al/Box8JXt

peterbrown,
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@jeffowski you need to take into account that the torque transferred to the wheels is generally much more gentle in an EV, partly because the gear change is smoother and partly because drivers quickly realise that wellying it reduces battery range. There is also less stress from braking due to regenerative brakes, so no brake pad dust either.
It’s not an easy calculation.

And whilst microplastics are important, they are a bit of a distraction from global warming. #BEV vehicles are still better.

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Fisker could go bankrupt, again. Worth noting that we are in a second "EV bubble" of sorts. The first one was about general electrification, but not BEVs only. The second one is about a cult-like obsession with BEVs. But both are bubbles, and this one is popping now.

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/electric-vehicle-startup-fisker-prepares-for-possible-bankruptcy-filing-26e63d32

#EV #BEV #fisker

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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I can only wonder how long VW can maintain this delusion. They will have to scale back or give up on their BEV fantasies soon. Reality will only continue to undermine their beliefs.

https://fortune.com/europe/2024/03/13/volkswagen-future-electric-30-new-models-gloomy-sales-outlook/

#EV #BEV #VW

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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The sooner this BS company comes down to Earth, the better the world will be. It has seduced so many people into believing the greenwashing fad that is the BEV. The world needs to move on from that.

https://fortune.com/2024/03/13/elon-musk-tesla-growth-company-no-growth-wells-fargo-downgrade/

#EV #BEV #tesla

jmtixhon, to random
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Hypx,
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@jmtixhon Tesla is a greenwashing fad, propped up by government mandates and subsidies. The business itself is basically a giant financial Ponzi scheme that just happens to have a hyped-up car company attached to it.

Sooner or later, it will fall apart. Apparently, we are starting to get there.

#EV #BEV #tesla

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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BEV investment fad is popping. Very few people are getting any kind of decent return. Regardless of how you feel about them, they are consistently non-profitable.

https://daxstreet.com/news/150054/lotus-stock-declines-by-40-post-ipo-amid-geelys-global-expansion-strategy/

#EV #BEV #geely

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Mostly a rumor for now, but it's increasingly likely that Jaguar is going to shut down pretty soon. The "switch" to an all-BEV lineup is just an excuse to end up being some kind of Chinese owned brand.

https://www.vwvortex.com/threads/jaguar-is-done.9551060/

#EV #BEV #jaguar

fedops, to TeslaMotors
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Don't let anyone tell you a #bev is "high tech". Here's a Detroit Electric Model C from 1907, tested range of over 300 km and top speed of 32 km/h.

And would you look at those swivel seats in the plush salon! 👍

Side view of a black and green car with white rims. It looks a lot like a horse carriage but fully enclosed with large windows and low black hood and trunk.

Hypx, (edited ) to TeslaMotors
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Reminder that large scale adoption of BEVs is still a fantasy. We simply don't have the grid capacity, and building it will take a long time. And if we did build it, we will find out that the cost is extremely high, and it completely kills off the notion that BEVs save money.

https://thedeepdive.ca/ev-adoption-has-a-problem-theres-no-infrastructure/

#EV #BEV

necrosis, to TeslaMotors German
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In der Einfahrt stehende Autos (ohne Garage) sind ja für Autodiebe oft leichte Beute heutzutage.

Angenommen man hat eine Wallbox und sein bzw. an diese angeschlossen, ist die Kabelverbindung zw. Wallbox nicht auch sowas wie eine Diebstahlsicherung für das Auto?
Ich meine das Kabel kann nicht einfach abgezogen werden oder?
Ist das in besonderer Weise arretiert bei beim DC Anschluss?

BEV sind für Autodiebe eher uninteressant weil im Zielland die Infra fehlt. PHEV jedoch eher nicht.🤔

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Rivian is a non-viable business. It is a late-comer to the greenwashing fad that is the modern BEV. A vehicle type that has no business beyond golf carts and neighborhood EVs. As a result, it is showing signs of major distress, and will eventually shut down, alongside every other BEV company.

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/former-rivian-employee-says-being-fired-was-a-relief-describes-misguided-company-environment/

#EV #BEV #rivian

drahardja, to Toyota
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Very interesting to hear what #Toyota NA CEO Ted Ogawa has to say about #BEV investment in the US.

Essentially, Toyota is ignoring EPA guidelines about BEV mix and focusing entirely on customer demand, and they will not make BEVs in numbers higher than expected demand lest they waste their resources.

Toyota’s now-well-known reticence in jumping into the BEV bandwagon, preferring to sell #PHEVs instead, may prove to be the better bet. The EPA is likely to reduce their mandate for 50% BEV new car sales by 2030. If they do, then Toyota’s strategy would have been proven right.

(Article is paywalled, but video is viewable)

#ev #cars

“Toyota's Ted Ogawa: Better to buy credits than ‘waste' EV investment”

https://www.autonews.com/executives/toyota-na-ceo-ted-ogawa-us-ev-demand-will-be-30-2030

Hypx, (edited ) to TeslaMotors
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Reminder that Tesla "investors" are often criminal-level pump & dump scam artists. The company is effectively a giant Ponzi scam that happens to have a shitty car company attached to it.

Someday, it will all come crashing down, and afterwards people will realize that BEVs, as they are being pushed by Tesla, are just some big greenwashing fad in service of a scam.

https://bsky.app/profile/jdotj.bsky.social/post/3kmol4maoia2j

#EV #BEV #tesla

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Toyota Says EV Targets Unrealistic, Prefers Buying Credits Over EV Development

"Wasted investment is worse than the credit purchase," said Toyota USA CEO Ted Ogawa

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/toyota-usa-thinks-ev-mandates-are-unrealistic-prefers-spending-on-credits-rather-than-ev-development/

#EV #BEV #toyota

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Fisker will be gone soon. BEVs are a fad, and a crappy startup making crappy, overpriced BEVs isn't going to survive.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-startup-fisker-raises-going-concern-doubts-2024-02-29/

#EV #BEV #fisker

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Reminder that the difference between BEVs and PHEVs in terms of emissions is much smaller than the BEV promoters have claimed. In fact, it is arguable that small PHEVs are the greenest cars you can buy today. In reality, BEVs are only one type of green car, not the only kind. And the obsession with only BEVs is just a fad. Even a cult at times.

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/28/electric-vehicle-environment-emissions

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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In many ways, a very smart thing to do. The problem is that there isn't much of a market for BEVs. It is really just a giant government subsidy harvesting industry. Certain companies have made it into a giant fad on top of that, but that will end. In the long-run, BEV sales will shrink to nearly nothing. If Apple was serious about making cars, they'd make some other type of car.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/27/24084907/apple-electric-car-project-titan-shuts-down

#EV #BEV #apple

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Financial websites are increasingly noticing that the BEV push is failing. And that Toyota was right all along with hybrids and other options. This will soon become consensus among everyone. Eventually, everyone will realize that BEVs are a fad and don’t make sense as ground transportation vehicles for most people.

https://www.ft.com/content/2a8eeeb7-7412-464a-b43e-1698cc78d5c4

#EV #BEV #toyota #hybrid

Hypx, to TeslaMotors
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Japanese automakers were simply paying attention to the facts, not buying into a fad. As a result, they are making massive profits while the rest of the industry losses billions on their BEV programs.

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/02/japanese-auto-industrys-cautious-approach-to-electrification-is-paying-off-as-ev-growth-slows-down/

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