SOMEONE is going to be elected president of the U.S. in November. It can either be the guy you yell at who changes his approach, or the guy you yell at who puts you in a camp. Up to you.
@StillIRise1963 even if nothing else was different between the two, Project 2025 from the Republicans speaks for itself. We're facing a potential genocide on US soil with Trump.
And I would be shocked if his apocalyptic evangelical handlers allowed him to somehow start giving anything but more aid to Israel.
@StillIRise1963 And in case you have any doubts, think carefully about what that word ‘camp’ means. And maybe it’s not you. Maybe it’s your kid. #VoteBiden#voteblue all the way down the ballot.
@StillIRise1963 I am concerned that many people don't care what happens to other people, and these same people are deluded into thinking that nothing bad will happen to them.
It's like the old story of how a guy who just died is allowed to choose between heaven and hell. Heaven seems boring to him, but the Devil makes Hell seem like a great place. So the guy chooses Hell, but when he gets there, it's nothing like the place he was sold on. When he asks what gives, the Devil says "Yesterday, we were campaigning. Today you voted for us."
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And if that person is DJT, that's the DEMS fault. Carrot and stick.
The Democrat leadership is doing 2016 over again with a side of 2002 warmongering. Something, I must add, that pretty much +90% of the Dems in power back in 2002 we're wrong about then as they are wrong about now. In particular the current president.
Y'all put yourselves in this position. Not me. Enjoy the mess you made.
@StillIRise1963 How can you say this when we are currently watching protesters who are yelling at Biden to change be thrown into jail and brutalized en masse, all while Biden explicitly states the protests have not and will never change his approach about anything?
@MoBlack@StillIRise1963 you can point at something bad while recognizing it can get worse. Every anti-voting argument from leftists seems to boil down to “things are already bad so what’s the point?” But things can get much, much worse. #voteblue
@njwatt@StillIRise1963 on this issue though things are not "getting worse", they are exactly the same. So you can't tell me that I "need" to vote blue for Palestine when it would be:
unconditional aid to Israel
the US government lying for Israel and covering up human rights abuses
Palestinians dying by the thousands
posters spied on, arrested, beaten, and smeared as anti-semites
@MoBlack@StillIRise1963 Trump and Biden are both on record with what they want to see happen, if you can’t see a distinction that’s on you. Also the American election is not and shouldn’t be 100% about Palestine. Trump is on record wanting to arrest and deport more people than live in Gaza. They matter too
@njwatt@StillIRise1963 Trump and Biden are both on record supporting the exact same shit on Palestine, yes. And Biden even has a longer track record of being a shameless Zionist than Trump does. He supported the Israeli assault and civilian massacre in Beruit in the 80s, for example, even when most Americans did not
@MoBlack@StillIRise1963 so if you see no difference on Palestine, shouldn’t you evaluate the other differences? What conclusion do you come to when you look at what the country will be like in 2025?
@njwatt@StillIRise1963 the presidential election is decided by, like, 3000 people in Pennsylvania and Michigan, states in which I do not live and cannot vote in. I already voted in my state's state elections, securing trans rights and abortion rights in our state. I have zero (0) reason to give a shit about who's president next year, and negative reason to vote for the geriatric genocidal fuck who is helping to eliminate the Palestinian people
@njwatt@StillIRise1963 And by the way if American """democracy""" (lol, lmao) is at stake here why is Joe Biden risking it over Israel? Who do you think those key voters in Michigan are? They're not Christian men. You're asking Arab and Muslim democrats to overlook the sanctioned and paid for slaughter of our own people for "the greater good".
If Joe Biden personally overturned Roe v Wade, would you even dare ask any woman to vote for him? It's utterly ridiculous and I think you know that
@MoBlack@StillIRise1963 either Biden or Trump will be President in 2025. I’m looking at two imperfect choices like an adult and considering which is better. I choose not to imprison and deport tens of millions of our neighbors, and I think it’s pretty sick that you’re advocating against voting in that choice
@njwatt@StillIRise1963 if Biden loses the election to a senile criminal and tens of millions of people end up in deportation camps, all because he made himself impossible to vote for, that will be Joe Biden's fault and not mine
@njwatt@StillIRise1963 people are already in camps and will continue to be in camps either way. They are already being arrested and will continue to be arrested.
@njwatt@StillIRise1963 the I thank you for your service in voting for 1,000,000 people to end up in camps instead of the 1,000,003 that would end up in camps under Trump 🫡
@StillIRise1963 Unfortunately, the guy you prefer just endorsed police raids which put a lot of young activists in jail, while slandering the activists as anti-semites in the process. I agree the other guy would be worse given a second chance. But that's a hard argument to make to people who now have to choose between the candidate who did endorse jailing them, to the one that might (but didn't while he was in office). And it's all self-inflicted damage.
The poison of American Exceptionalism has distilled into Murican Me-ism.
We each think we’re our own island of certain expectations and entitlements, forced to live together. And if it doesn’t make us happy we shut it down.
I think it’ll be a weak turnout with a margin leaving things up to SCOTUS.
@GGMcBG You’re actually talking about white American culture and I think that needs to be made clear. White people are not the default people. They are a group oppressing all other groups. And, the only reason we’re in this situation is because of racism. It’s a fight between white people.
@StillIRise1963 Huh? Who invented that absurd angle of (I guess you mean) Trump wanting to put anybody in a camp (unless guilty of serious crimes, but that is already done today).
I support re-socialization. Or, if that fails, then separation of offenders from the unsuspecting public which want to live in a high-trust society.
@StillIRise1963 I despise Trump, but he is a symptom of something that is rotten in the body politic. There were others before him and others who will follow. Trump must be resolutely defeated, not just politically. Sadly the US squandered 4 years in resolving his treason. Many who supported him are still in Congress.
@StillIRise1963 Because they are hellish, Satan's spawn, the wicked children of false prophets and peddlers of their own twisted dogma. The very definition of Matthew 7:15.
@katzenberger@StillIRise1963 Trump coming back into power means an end to elections, massive repression, illegal deportations, and death for many. Our system only gives us one alternative. You’re telling us to give up and throw up our hands, and just wait until the system kills us.
What kind of arrogance allows Europeans to come on here and give these messed-up sanctimonious lectures to marginalized people in the USA trying to avert catastrophe?
@katzenberger@StillIRise1963 suppose you walked into a house where a small fire had broken out. It’s the third time it’s happened, because the wiring is faulty. The tenet reaches for a fire extinguisher and you yell “Stop using the fire extinguisher and make your landlord fix the wiring!” The tenet responds “I’ve been asking him to fix it for weeks. But right now, I must put THIS fire out NOW so I don’t end up homeless.” And your reply is “You stupid fool! There will just be more fires.”
The fire extinguisher is empty, since years, and you know it. You are saved by people helping you extinguish the flames. They help you because you helped them, and don't remember they exist only in a moment of disaster.
Afterwards, they tell you to not foolishly press the handle on an empty fire extinguisher, in the hope it will magically extinguish the flames because it simply "has to".
You get angry because how dare they criticize a fire extinguisher.
@katzenberger@StillIRise1963 if the choice is between using a shitty fire extinguisher or just letting my house burn down, possibly burning me (and my kids) up with it, you bet I’m going to try the shitty fire extinguisher.
And as far as the rest of the world helping us put out the fire, I appreciate the offer, but you can’t help. You don’t get a vote in our elections. That’s not your fault—this is a mess of our own making.
@katzenberger Seems to me, you’re the haughty fool. I wish you could get all that you deserve because your whiteness wouldn’t save you this time. But, alas, we’ll have to save you FROM YOURSELF yet one more fucking time. If it were up to me, I’d love to watch you lord of the flies all fucking day long.🤡
@cohomologyisFUN@StillIRise1963 if "their countrie better" means the genocide of Palestinian people, fuck your countrie, you speak as the privileged you are. Your countrie, your problem, not like US use to do with other countries, solve it, or do you expect the rest of the world to forget #genocidejoe
The problem of US is the bravery of beeing out of range, all the wars and dead are far away, until one day, than you learn.
@ruikubla@StillIRise1963 no, a better country means (among other things) a country that isn’t involved in genocide.
“Your country, your problem”. Yes. That’s why we are trying to fix it.
We are on your side. Do you get it?
The post you first replied to was posted by a Black American woman. Do you honestly think she doesn’t understand how evil the USA has been? Marginalized Americans don’t need your “both sides are the same” BS when we are fighting to avoid catastrophe.
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