GottaLaff,
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“Dairy farmers in the United States are raising their defenses to try to contain the spread of #BirdFlu: banning visitors, cutting down trees to discourage wild birds from landing, and disinfecting vehicles coming onto their land.”
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/bird-flu-pushes-us-dairy-farmers-ban-visitors-chop-trees-2024-04-11/

Eka_FOOF_A, (edited )
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@GottaLaff
Keeping the wild birds from roosting anywhere near the livestock (cows in this case) is the vital bit. They are the scourge of all trying to keep down antibiotic use on farms. Edit: Smart farmers know antibiotics don't treat viruses. Using antibiotics costs money...

Mice, rats, raccoons, etc can also spread diseases to the cattle. For dairies it is harder to keep them away from livestock due to the large amounts of feed stored in open silage pits, and fed in bunks.

(I'm ex farmer.)

GottaLaff,
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@Eka_FOOF_A Good info

kristen_d,
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@Eka_FOOF_A @GottaLaff The future is vegan. Farmers who think destroying the habitat of wild animals for their own financial pursuit is acceptable explain absolutely everything that is wrong with the environment,

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Vat grown meat.... Literally meat grown in a vat instead of a body. Still insanely expensive, but the cost has already dropped massively.

Converted vegan meats are soon going to be close to cost parity with beef, if they aren't already cheaper. When they get lower than chicken, we'll see big inroads for their sales. The thing is they still need lots of land use. Also they don't properly substitute for all the nutrients meats provide.

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@Eka_FOOF_A @GottaLaff I don't think that cutting down trees will discourage gulls, starlings, doves and blackbirds from concentrated feeding operations or small feedlots.

Eka_FOOF_A,
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It helps, but isn't 100%. To get 100% one needs to go to total confinement, with enclosed feed storage. The later is the hard part for a dairy or feedlot. Even how one makes the vent and air intakes for the confinement facility effects how good the bio security can be.

The old Harvester silos were great for bio security, but they are costly, and just don't hold enough feed for modern operations.

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@Eka_FOOF_A @GottaLaff
My local Home Depot also is an unintentional aviary, so we're all doomed.
(I did manage to get 25% off a wheelie bin that was covered in bird shit, which I later sanitized).

Eka_FOOF_A,
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I'm surprised at the number of big box stores that end up aviaries. They have gotten the door sensors better at not responding to a bird flying by.

At a store a friend managed, they changed to new avian ignoring door sensors. Then a dove, who had a nest inside, learned to hover in front of the sensor... Soon all the birds knew the trick.

Humans build such beautiful caves to make nests in....

Lazarou,
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@GottaLaff when this finally jumps to humans we'll be absolutely fucked because half of people won't believe it's real or take any precautions and Governments are never going to choose public health over profit ever again.

GottaLaff,
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@Lazarou Thom Hartmann said about 50% of humans who contract it die.

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@GottaLaff yikes!

GottaLaff,
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@Lazarou Oh, and as I recall, it did jump to a human

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wendinoakland,
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@GottaLaff @MarvClowder @Lazarou Zoonotic diseases, again. Sigh…

chris,
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@GottaLaff
Meanwhile:
"Poultry litter is not only cheaper than other food sources like soy and grains but is also more calorie-dense, meaning farmers can bulk up their herds much more quickly."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/chicken-waste-fed-to-cattle-may-be-behind-bird-flu-outbreak/

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