ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

Stepping into “GIMP sucks” territory with my next Tedium issue. Kinda scared.

mitch,
@mitch@posts.dumb.stuff.donaberger.xyz avatar

@ernie there used to be a plugin called 'GIMPshop' that styled GIMP to look more like Photoshop, and that was incredible. Of course, Adobe DCMA'd it, as was the style at the time.

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@mitch Good news, something like that does exist. https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP

jeremiah,
@jeremiah@tldr.nettime.org avatar

@ernie praying the issue reveals a good Photoshop alternative on Linux I haven't discovered yet.

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@jeremiah Despite not being designed for the purpose, Krita is honestly pretty good!

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

(Originally this said GNOME, when I meant GIMP. I love GNOME!)

mattl,
@mattl@social.coop avatar

@ernie it’s “the GIMP” and it’s also “a terrible name for a piece of software”

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@mattl We almost had Glimpse.

andybaio,
@andybaio@xoxo.zone avatar

@ernie @mattl The story of Glimpse is a great example of why “just fork it if you don’t like it” is a cop-out.

mattl,
@mattl@social.coop avatar

@andybaio @ernie it’s wild to me that they still have so many words dedicated in their FAQ to the name being problematic.

Sadly without an organization behind the project they’re never going to change. Free software is plagued by problems like this and is held back as a result.

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@mattl @andybaio It feels like gatekeeping to almost discourage its broader uptake.

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@andybaio @mattl Absolutely. And it’s sad. It just feels like an obvious excuse to not do better.

Now, your tool, which is the only real open-source option for the use case it covers, is in the middle of a culture war.

It also meant that the Glimpse team had to swim upstream to fix the problems that have limited GIMP’s audience over the years. Of course they failed.

robertoqs,

@ernie

I'm a #MATE user, by the way (continuation of #GNOME2). So far, it's the only #DesktopEnvironment I've used extensively. Perhaps some day I'll try #GNOME.

#MATEDesktop
#Linux
#GNULinux

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@robertoqs I understand why GNOME 3 was such a dramatic change and why it went so unloved for so long. It’s pretty polished at this point, though, and I think that if you’re asking for that kind of experience it has a lot of benefits.

robertoqs,

@ernie

Would you be able to say more about why it was dramatic? I know it was, but I'm not sure why. Resource consumption? Excessive GUI changes? Becoming too similar to KDE Plasma? Using non-libre components?

I have an impression it might be all of those, but I don't know. I started using #GNULinux (specifically #ArchLinux) very recently by comparison to the history of #GNOME.

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@robertoqs They essentially took a very common and well-understood interface dynamic and shifted it dramatically, and it wasn’t particularly ready for prime time when it first happened. In that way, GNOME was similar to the early versions of Mac OS X.

robertoqs,

@ernie

I see. Thank you.

iyashikei_kris,
@iyashikei_kris@mstdn.social avatar

@ernie @robertoqs

This. I started using Linux right at the transition from Gnome 2 to Gnome 3. From what I remember from discussions at the time Gnome 3 broke everybody's workflow, even Linus Torvalds! To add insult to injury it was more buggy and unstable, and was constantly changing so it wasn't guaranteed configurations a distro did would carry over to the next release, this is also why Mint decided it was better to make Cinammon rather than continuing to patch Gnome every new release.

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@iyashikei_kris @robertoqs GNOME is pretty great these days but some people haven’t forgiven them for what happened all those years ago

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