gamingonlinux,
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It’s fucking nuts that service providers can just remove your purchases like this without refunds.

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/legal/psvideocontent/#

tokensane,
@tokensane@mastodon.me.uk avatar

@gamingonlinux
I'm fairly confident that in the EU, and still AFAIK in the UK, this wouldn't be legal. In the UK this is the Unfair Contract Terms Act. The EU legislation is linked below. The schedule of unfair term includes

(d) permitting the supplier to retain sums paid where the latter decides not to perform the contract, without providing for compensation of an equivalent amount from the supplier where the latter is the party cancelling the contract;

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:31993L0013

kkarhan,

@tokensane @gamingonlinux i'm also shure that in #Germany, this would be considered #theft by the platform holder and that doing so would at the very least make them subject to reimbursing all the costs associated with getting a replacement media!

But sadly no lawyer woll make that case unless the damages are 4-digits so it's worth their time...
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revk,
@revk@toot.me.uk avatar

@gamingonlinux they even use the word “purchase”. How is that not a reason to require a refund, perhaps on basis that it clear was not in fact “purchased” in the first place.

kkarhan,

@revk @gamingonlinux +1

It's not a purchase if they can retroactively revoke access to it.
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gerowen,
@gerowen@mastodon.social avatar

@gamingonlinux Playstation did the same thing to me way back with movies I had purchased directly from them.

With modern consoles you don't "own" anything, you're just renting a license to content for as long as they feel like making it available.

gamingonlinux,
@gamingonlinux@mastodon.social avatar

“One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue.” - Gabe Newell, Valve, 2011.

gamingonlinux,
@gamingonlinux@mastodon.social avatar

If your reply is blaming people for not reading the ToS: don’t be an ass. Companies make them difficult to parse for normal average people. When you purchase something, you expect it to be yours.

frostchild,
@frostchild@mastodon.social avatar

@gamingonlinux 100% Nuts, they should get sued to hell and back for stuff like this.

kkarhan,

@gamingonlinux Remember: #Piracy is an act of self- and mutual defense!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krXH8jXefqE

RyunoKi,
@RyunoKi@layer8.space avatar

@gamingonlinux If it's not on disc, I don't buy it 🤷

vv221,
@vv221@fediverse.dotslashplay.it avatar

And yet, people keep buying games from Steam. You buy DRM-ridden content, you get what you paid for.
https://xkcd.com/488/

kkarhan,

@vv221 @gamingonlinux at least Steam doesn't rip games out of peoples' accounts and does at least have provisions in place to gracefully shut down if it were to fold...

I mean.there must be a reason people like #Steam...
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vv221,
@vv221@fediverse.dotslashplay.it avatar

[Steam] does at least have provisions in place to gracefully shut down if it were to fold...

Feel free to put more value in Valve’s promises than in Sony’s ones. I don’t.

I mean.there must be a reason people like #Steam...

Sure, it’s called "marketing". Before their aggressive marketing campaigns Steam was universally hated, for good reasons.

CC: @gamingonlinux

kkarhan,

@vv221 @gamingonlinux

I don't disagree - I just say that so far I've yet to see stealing peoples' games from their accounts.

And yes, managed to get people into liking their as a "" to the point devs get harrassed for not publishing on Steam, which is more than condemnable but inexcuseable by those doing said harrassment...

FisherPeter,

@gamingonlinux You have not purchased anything that remains part of someone else's system. You have just rented it for an indefinite period. That may not be right, but that's the way it is. Go back to DVDs.

kkarhan,
TetraShot7,

@gamingonlinux Like everyone else says. Purchase movies and tv shows digitally, you're still stuck with it and can't do anything else with it. Purchasing a blu-ray disc or dvd is the way better option if applicable.

Edit: It also sucks because even if you purchase it digitally, you can't watch it if there are licensing issues or gets removed from a platform.

kkarhan,

@TetraShot7 @gamingonlinux even with #BluRay you get shafted with shitty #DRM, so you might just use #BitTorrent until #AACS & #HDCP get abolished!

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