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mrcompletely,
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@Defiance been waiting for that for years, it was announced shortly after WV ended and has been in limbo since

Defiance,
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@mrcompletely OK, I thought this sounded familiar too. I wonder why so long between shows?

mrcompletely,
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@Defiance the MCU "strategy" dingbats have been flailing for awhile, stuff keeps jumping on and off the schedule. It has seemed pretty chaotic.

philip_cardella,
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@Defiance @mrcompletely covid plus the writers and actors strikes surely played a huge role.

Then you've got to weave it back into the overall MCU timeline.

And of course you had the big baddy do big bad stuff IRL and the whole phase 4 and I think phase 5 get altered and well, a long wait.

mrcompletely,
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@philip_cardella @Defiance the Wanda story did go in a specific direction they'll need to reconcile, which might be complicated

aburtch,
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@Defiance @mrcompletely Likely the writer's strike and also Marvel has hit their point of diminishing returns. Recently the IP has been in decline. I think they are being more careful now with what they release. https://variety.com/2023/film/features/marvel-jonathan-majors-problem-the-marvels-reshoots-kang-1235774940/

mrcompletely,
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@aburtch @Defiance overall I agree, but WandaVision was a huge deal and it's still one of their most successful ventures, and the Agatha show has been very very highly anticipated, though who knows if that's lasted thru the delay, so this one has long been a no brainer imo.

aburtch,
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@mrcompletely @Defiance I'll have to check out Echo. I've heard good thinks, but haven't watched yet.

mrcompletely,
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@aburtch @Defiance the character was very poorly introduced in the Hawkeye series which I thought stunk end to end. The only reason I started watching Echo was for D'Onofrio but I found it to be top tier MCU. Having multiple Choctaw writers involved helped it a lot. And D'Onofrio's Kingpin is immediately the most compelling character in the MCU just as he was in the Netflix verse, which if they're smart should help them navigate the choppy waters in the Kang storyline.

chopaganda,
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@mrcompletely @aburtch @Defiance Interesting. We might’ve debated this before, but I actually loved Hawkeye. There wasn’t much depth to the story, but I thought they nailed the vibe and tone. It was simply fun and enjoyable.

rowjimmy,
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@chopaganda @mrcompletely @aburtch @Defiance it’s a Christmas story!

chopaganda,
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blueemu,
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@chopaganda @rowjimmy @mrcompletely @aburtch @Defiance God, when Hawkeye shot Kingpin with the leg lamp arrow? Epic.

mrcompletely,
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@blueemu @chopaganda @rowjimmy @aburtch @Defiance well, everything with Kingpin in it was great. But overall I thought it had the weakest script and especially acting of any MCU series to date (the Ms Marvel scripts were awful but the actors were charismatic and watchable).

thesizzler,
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@chopaganda @mrcompletely @aburtch @Defiance The Hawkeye miniseries also hewed comparatively close to the source material (Matt Fraction & David Aja's turn with Clint, c. 2010-12), which worked to its benefit

mrcompletely,
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@thesizzler @chopaganda @aburtch @Defiance fraction is a mixed bag for me. He works too much and a lot of his writing feels rushed and by the numbers to me but when he's good he's great. Haven't read that series though I've heard it's good, mostly out of lack of interest in the character

thesizzler,
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@mrcompletely @chopaganda @aburtch @Defiance Totally agree about Fraction in general, and his run with Hawkeye is seriously great.

mrcompletely,
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@thesizzler @chopaganda @aburtch @Defiance maybe I'll grab it next time I'm pulling Hoopla library comics for the iPad. It's always there

shaugn,
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@mrcompletely @aburtch @Defiance I would watch a show that was just the routine days in the life of kingpin, making that breakfast, staring at his awesome painting, occasional emotional monologue, couple of rounds in the ring with daredevil… D’Onofrio!

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