There's a massive difference between putting your own works under CC licenses to be used for remix etc. and corporations and their henchmen just grabbing everything without regard for who they hurt.
@tante Seems CC assume that "AI" is a friendly sentient cloud that floats around the internet in an ongoing remix session to make people dance and be happy 🤦
@tante I can see their argument for works licensed with remixing permitted, but are they going to help support and enforce the rights of creators who specifically withheld that permission?
@tante If companies (or anybody) grab CC or other copyleft material for training AIs, I think that is morally ok as long as they make it clear that the results are under the same license. And that may mean "no commercial use" or "free to distribute and reuse". And it becomes really interesting in the case of GPLed software...
@tante I guess they’re fishing for corporate donations? 🤢 Hey @dansup can you create a -NOAI- license variation for @pixelfed that one can add to uploads?
@eobet@tante@pixelfed I’m wondering if it would be worthwhile to add a profile setting one could enable that would apply this to all existing and future uploads in addition to per post licenses!
Let me know what you think, and do you mind if I reference your post for docs/marketing to give you attribution for this feature idea?
@simulo Yes. I am not saying that "remixing" cannot be for the public interest.
But there is a massive difference between an artist taking a piece of work and intentionally transform/build on it and a corporation sucking in all data possible to generate boatloads of shit for profit.
@tante I absolutely agree with you, the point was that "massive data harvesting" is not like the others and is not included in the usual "CC enables people to do great stuff" examples.
@tante Disappointing, but no surprising, as someone else said. The generative AI debate is definitely highlighting some longstanding blindspots held by previously untouchable champions of the internet, namely a lack of concern with private power and a belief that openness cures all. See also: EFF and Facebook/Cambridge Analytica.
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