yon,
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Just had one of those low level aha moments. I don’t have a TikTok account, I don’t have the app nor do I go to the web site.

So now I’m sure that if anyone is reading this they are thinking: “Yon, that’s an awfully long winded way to say you don’t watch any TikTok videos!”

Well, not true:) A crazy amount of TikToks are reposted as YouTube shorts.

chikorita157,
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@yon and I use Invidious to watch the Youtube video. I don't want to give Google any money.

But I will never touch Tiktok likewise with other apps like Temu and the likes, too much of a privacy risk.

yon,
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@chikorita157 I’m curious of how much it would cost to run video services. Seems like a very difficult thing to do. Privately, as a community, or as an organization.

Ever looked into fedi video services? More as in “Yon is curious”, not saying you should run it :)

chikorita157,
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@yon I think storage will the the huge factor as video takes a lot of space, but I don't think Peertube store videos from other servers.

yon,
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@chikorita157 Bandwidth is pretty big too, scales with each user and as a small player one wouldn’t have access to <fancy tech that solves that, assuming I don’t have to explain it, but I also don’t know the word for it because I’m tired>.

Streaming is even worse in many ways. Short form videos would be the same.

(I don’t actually dislike short form, it’s just a very different thing. A different mind set. Much closer to zapping between channels but not as shit compared to watching curated “good” videos.)

anianimalsmoe,
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@yon
@chikorita157
The tech that solves that is a CDN. Nobody can beat the big players CDNs, and overall they're pretty pricey, even cloudflares cheaper tiers are $10/$50 per mo

chikorita157,
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@anianimalsmoe @yon Interesting, but I tend to avoid using Cloudflare for reasons, but we do use Object Storage from Linode.

yon,
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@chikorita157 @anianimalsmoe Loved Fastly when I dealt with their stuff. I never did video though. But their whole setup is really cool.

yon,
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@anianimalsmoe @chikorita157 CDN, that’s the dang word. I was thinking of how they are implemented and caching and couldn’t see the forrest for the trees:)

$600/year surely is a chunk of money, but not outside the real of what many can afford. But assume they don’t scale so, yeah, must be horrid amounts of money. Very difficult to get any of this to make any money.

Not to mention how much more difficult streaming is (not the Netflix kind, the Twitch kind). Lag is absolute killer for things like interacting with chat for instance. Very crazy.

Video is pretty crazy stuff. I grew up in an analog world:)

chikorita157,
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@yon I think some hosts provide unlimited bandwidth, but since we used Object Storage, it’s metered. From I last checked, we use 570 GB of bandwidth for our buckets that hosts cached media for Mastodon and uploaded user content.

yon,
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@chikorita157 There’s no such thing as a free lunch or unlimited data:) (sorry for the joke)

Wow. That’s quite a bit after all. Guess it really ads up.

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