@thomasfuchs besides all that, considering the recent track records of these companies with respect to job security, I would expect anyone with any common sense that is still working there to have their CVs updated and on file with recruitment agencies by now.
As for anyone receiving a job offer from either of them...would you really accept it with the high likelihood they would dump you like last week's trash within five years or probably less, even if they weren't supremely shitty companies in general?