aral,
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When privileged folks tell me at my talks “I don’t care about my privacy / I have nothing to hide / Give me one example of the ramifications of surveillance capitalism / etc.”, I tell them “you will care when your health insurance premiums go up because your Smart Fridge tells the insurance companies what you’re eating/drinking.” This is basically the same thing. Sad that it takes things hitting their own wallets for privileged folks to pay attention.

🤷‍♂️ https://social.lansky.name/@hn50/112077137922790367

meejah,
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@aral Anyone who says this to me, I offer to put the entire contents of their phone online immediately for free.
Nobody has taken me up on this offer...

exchgr,
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@aral i agree. but counterpoint: some of these drivers could use the extra premium to knock their recklessness down a peg. but of course the real solution is plentiful public transit and streets with extreme traffic calming measures, not more surveillance/punishment capitalism that blames people for using roads how they were designed (as drag race strips).

maggiejk,

@exchgr @aral that’s not what happens though, they just don’t pay for the insurance, then they’re driving uninsured. Then if they’re in an accident they drive away because the odds of not getting caught are in their favor

It was one of the worst things about living in LA county, so many people are driving around without insurance and if they hit you they just drive away.

exchgr,
@exchgr@mastodon.world avatar

in that case, the measures in the latter part of my post still apply

kikobar,
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@aral too late... my supermarket has been selling this information for the last 2 decades... 🙄

maggiejk,

@kikobar @aral I stopped going to the Rite Aid down the road from me because the only way to get the advertised sales price is to use the stupid rewards card. And years ago they stopped letting people use the one at the register if we “forgot” our card.

I’m not paying more than other people when there’s a sale just because I refuse to give them my information so they can sell it. So I just don’t go there.

Hannaford was doing that for a while so I stopped shopping there. I had to go there recently for something specific and I don’t think they do that anymore.

kikobar,
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@maggiejk @aral unfortunately, unless we pay with physical cash -which is very rare these days- we are giving away the information anyway, and either them or their ERP suppliers will engage in the data brokerage without proper consent. 🙄

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