thelinuxcast,
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Apple does a better job of doing these events. Google starts off with the most boring things. #GoogleIO

realcaseyrollins,

@thelinuxcast #AI? #AI isn't boring

peteriskrisjanis,
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@thelinuxcast isn't that like whole vibe like always? Apple is essentially marketing company. Google is tech corpo.

thelinuxcast,
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@peteriskrisjanis Yes, it's not unusual. But putting the Android stuff at the top of the show would really help.

realcaseyrollins,

@thelinuxcast That's a good point @peteriskrisjanis. Another thing too is that #Google IO is targeted towards developers, while #MadeByGoogle events are targeted towards consumers. Maybe they're one and the same now, but their developer presentations seem to focus on behind-the-scenes tech that rarely gets widely deployed (like utilizing the cocktail effect to isolate vocals of shouting debaters during an episode of #ESPN #FirstTake)

They're more showing us what they can do, and less trying to sell us something, during these types of presentations

thelinuxcast,
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@realcaseyrollins @peteriskrisjanis Apple's developer events are better by far. Even when they talk dev stuff, they make it entertaining and informative. Google by comparison is dull.

realcaseyrollins,

@thelinuxcast @peteriskrisjanis That's often because they hide the uglier, less interesting stuff for other #WWDC sessions that aren't livestreamed so we're not bored by them

thelinuxcast,
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@realcaseyrollins @peteriskrisjanis They talked about swift for 15 minutes a few years ago and made it interesting. But I'm sure there are more technical things in the other events.

realcaseyrollins,

@thelinuxcast @peteriskrisjanis Yeah, I remember it being mentioned, but most of the interesting information about it (as a coder) came afterwards, from social media posts from the people in attendance at the other presentations.

thelinuxcast,
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@realcaseyrollins @peteriskrisjanis Yes, and that's how a keynote is supposed to work. The technical details are where they can be useful, not on stage where there has to be a pace to keep even developers interested.

but Google does this every year. It's a developer conference, but they talk about search and Google products, not anything that most developers have anything to do with. Android and web technologies are where the devs are at.

realcaseyrollins,

@thelinuxcast @peteriskrisjanis Based on what #LeoLaporte has said, it's almost as if #Google combined their usual #MadeByGood presentation with #GoogleIO, so it'll be 50% software (and half of that will be just nerdy behind the scenes stuff), 50% hardware

peteriskrisjanis,
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@thelinuxcast @realcaseyrollins as someone who never liked these kind of events and talks...they are mostly for marketing purposes and two companies just operate very differently. Google let phone companies market Android, and worry mostly about tech side of things. Apple sells things correctly, so they want people to get hyped about their products.
As someone who doesn't care much about it, not sure which one is best, but smugness of Apple sometimes is not really working for me.

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