Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I can “cheat” with my current nearly decade old monitor. It has 4 cross hair overlay settings to choose from, so even if the game doesn’t provide me with a cross hair, I can still have one.

This one is just ridiculous.

DudeImMacGyver,

You could even put some string over the screen or apply a little static sticker

xkforce,

This isnt just going to get used in LOL but any game that it can be trained on. This is basically another example of money giving people an advantage over everyone else. You buy the monitor, train it and bam, you are “better” at playing pretty much any video game you want and there’s not much that can be done to negate that advantage.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Welcome to the modern world. Skills are now secondary right after expensive equipment.

xkforce,

Contrary to what device manufacturers would have people believe, the differences in gaming outcome between a cheap keyboard or mouse and expensive ones isn’t much. But what this monitor is claimed to be able to do would provide a significant tangible advantage. This shouldn’t be normalized.

heavy,

Wow, who knew you could buy a monitor that looks at your data and probably sends it back to MSI.

dan1101,

That’s a shitty move, no good will come from this.

Tolstoy,
@Tolstoy@lemmy.world avatar

HwID-ban straight to hell…

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

It’s AI watching your display. It doesn’t interfere with game files.

YMS,
YMS avatar

That's the point of banning by hardware ID.

pory,
@pory@lemmy.world avatar

detecting it is the problem. If the software is truly being run on the monitor, not the PC, it’s not something Riot can detect, unless they want to just ban anyone with this display connected to their PC (and monitor EID can also be spoofed).

soggy_kitty,

This is along the same lines as streamers getting meta info from their chat.

If it’s been rendered on the screen but the user missed it, it’s not cheating because you would have had that information if you were more observant

Atomic,

Missing a 0.5 second blip on the minimap vs the monitor telling you HEY HE’S OVER THERE! for several seconds with a big icon you can’t miss or ignore, is not quite the same.

One of them is a big advantage. Even pros miss fast blips on the minimap. And it’s their job to be “observant”

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Pros can memorize where each player is and could be. They don’t need AI, it actually might even hurt their gameplay.

Maybe instead of buying an expensive monitor to get out of silver, consider buying boosting services… At least you won’t look like a dunce.

Atomic,

I’m sitting low diamond and is perfectly OK with that.

But your pathetic attempt at an insult doesn’t change the fact that a monitor like that is an unfair advantage, regardless of rank

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

I think you misunderstood, cause it wasn’t aimed directly at you. I perfectly know what kind of advantage hardware gives you. Here’s the answer:

None.

As someone who played in low diamond with players playing on trackpads, I can say I’ve seen everything.

Every single thing in league can be memorized and guessed. From the minion wave patterns to the enemy’s reverse jungle pathing.

This AI is doing the same, it guesses everything based on whatever data it has at its disposal. If you want more laid back games, then don’t play to rank up. It’s that simple.

Oh, and if you have a good communicative team you’ll get better info. Perhaps better than a monitor 😂

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

By that logic, aimbots should be fine in FPS because the dude was on the screen for it to trigger. I would have had that headshot if I had faster reflexes, so it’s all good.

corus_kt,

Cool gimmick, just icky that their target audience is the type of people looking for unfair advantages in a multiplayer game

chaosppe,
@chaosppe@lemmy.world avatar

As cool as this is, Im not quite sure I want my monitor to also watch my porn with me.

bionicjoey,

“Are you seriously watching porn by yourself?”

“Nah, I’m with my bois monitor!”

riodoro1,

It will automatically fast forward to your favorite part. Imagine the time saved.

dditty,

It wouldn’t surprise me if someone does use the software training program that goes with it to program its bottom rgb strip to color-suggest the highlighted segments on Pornhub videos.

ryannathans,

Why not? It can tell you when they’re about to cut to a close up of a dude’s butthole

CaptainSpaceman,

Its all client-side, so unless LoL is checking the hw on the monitor there is no way to detect it

nanoUFO,
@nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works avatar

They could ban hardware, rust banned a certain series of mice to prevent scripting.

Even_Adder,

Can’t you just spoof different hardware though?

Dirk_Darkly,

Depending on the game, this could open you up to a perma-ban (if found out). Which I think most multiplayer games take a hardline stance against circumventing their rules.

Ephera,

I don’t know, if LoL uses it, but there’s some pretty ridiculous infrastructure in place for DRM, where programs can detect that your entire hardware stack (CPU → GPU → cable → Monitor) hasn’t been tampered with: en.wikipedia.org/…/High-bandwidth_Digital_Content…

They still can’t detect when you’re filming your monitor, but pretty much everything else…

umbrella, (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

hdcp is easily defeatable nowadays.

would their new anticheat be able to detect it?

MrPoopbutt,

How does one defeat hdcp?

umbrella,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

there are small boxes you can buy that you install before the monitor.

it pretends to be your monitor while you can do shenanigans up the chain.

YMS,
YMS avatar

And that's actually an argument against buying this monitor, as long as you want to play any games with it. They have reason to ban you just for using this monitor. So in the end you have the choice between one monitor that could get you banned and all the others that don't. I know which one I wouldn't choose.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Yup. The fastest return of my life was when I found out my mouse was banned from the game I literally bought a few minutes earlier. Of course it was Rust. Just because I have a mouse with macros and scripts doesn’t mean I’m using them (I really don’t lol).

n3m37h,

Just wow, you can get macro software that works on any mouse or keyboard…

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah but this one is built-in. I guess that makes it different 🤷‍♂️

n3m37h,

Ban the G502 thats got on board memory and can store 5 profiles and you can program macros onto the on board storage.

Why do we jave to live in the worst timeline?

Socsa,

Is using macros considered cheating these days? That seems dumb.

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar
kogasa,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

Aren’t they about to start using their kernel-level anticheat for LoL? They very well could look at hardware ids

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