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FAQ

Who am I?

I am a fat woman who fell victim to HAES (health at every size) and fat pride, and destroyed my health because of it. I got so fat I actually stopped having my period regularly. I got so fat that when checking for a potential tumor on my ovaries, my ultrasound was useless because they couldn't see anything beyond my fat. I got so fat that at the age of 20 I was out of breath getting dressed, washing myself, tying my shoes, etc. I realized my irrational and self-destructive ways, realized I was just lying to myself, and am now on a path to improvement. I'm 25lbs down.

What is this community for?

This community is for showing the fat logic people often fall victim to. False, misleading, incorrect info promoting obesity or claiming it isn't harmful when it very much is. Also, general irrationality, excuses, and bad takes from HAES and fat pride types.

Is this a hate group?

Absolutely not. I don't hate fat people, I AM a fat woman! I only hate the idea of HAES and the damage both it and obesity does. If you check the rules (listed below), hate speech or being mean-spirited isn't allowed.

I'm fat and it's genetic, it's out of my control, dieting doesn't work, I have PCOS, it's my meds, you're an asshole, etc etc

Yeah yeah, same stuff I used to believe. No genetic disorder makes someone 150lbs overweight. 'Dieting' does work, or rather consuming less calories than you lose does work, it is a basic fact. If you claim it doesn't work for you, you simply did it wrong. You, and no other fat person, defies the laws of thermodynamics. Sorry to burst your bubble. You've resigned yourself to being fat, and cope by saying it is out of your control. I'd know because I WAS you. It is within your control, but it's fucking hard, food addiction is HARD, but you CAN lose weight. Set point theory doesn't exist, starvation mode doesn't exist, antidepressants may make you hungrier but they didn't force you to consume more food. Stop lying to yourself, you are worth more than that.

NO, you don't need to eat like a rabbit, you can eat whatever as long as you're in a caloric deficit to lose weight. NO, you won't gain weight from the myth of starvation mode. NO, losing weight won't give you a higher set point, set point isn't real. NO, you are NOT fatphobic for wanting to lose weight and feel better. NO, obesity IS NOT HEALTHY. Weight loss is fucking hard, I'm well aware, but stop acting like it's out of your control.

The formatting of some things is weird, some posts aren't actually removed on my end, edits not coming through, etc

This is due to non federated actions between kbin and Lemmy. For the best and most accurate experience, you should view this community from kbin, otherwise I can't control how it will look or be federated on Lemmy, unfortunately.

THE RULES - PLEASE READ!

  1. No hate speech, don't be mean for the sake of being mean
  2. Blur any usernames
  3. Don't link to the subject, upload pics directly
  4. No ED encouragement or support, whether that be BED or ANA
  5. WE ARE NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH FA/HAES TYPES. We are not here to listen to your excuses about why you're fat. This community isn't for you! Keep your fat logic to yourself
  6. No photos of faces/fat people. We aren't here to laugh at people's appearance
  7. We are NOT a fat hate group! We are anti HAES and against the promotion of self destructive behavior. Any mean-spirited fat hate will get you banned.

Remember to mark logical/anti-haes/pro-health posts with [sanity] in the title

RESOURCES/COMMUNITIES FOR WEIGHT LOSS

How to lose weight - quick start guide
Overeating is the cause of weight gain (World Health Organization)
1200 cals is plenty
1500 cals is plenty
Intermittent Fasting
OMAD - for volume eaters
Fat logic subreddit

ZILtoid1991,
ZILtoid1991 avatar

Yeah, weight loss is fucking hard, because people fucking hate us, and try to "fix" us also in mentality.

Also you're leaving medications out of the equation. If I take my anti-seizure meds without eating a sizable meal first, I'm risking a stomach ulcer, and even without that, its side effects include terrible sleep, constant tiredness, etc.

The real problem isn't "fat logic", but the gatekeeping of health. I was always bullied in sports for not wanting to sacrifice my other hobbies, for not wanting to always win, and the greatest sin among all of them: not wanting to become a world champion.

hallucination,

Sizeable doesn't need to = overindulgent high calorie junk. See rule 5.

WE ARE NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH FA/HAES TYPES. We are not here to listen to your excuses about why you're fat. This community isn't for you! Keep your fat logic to yourself.

You can block me and the community and never see me again, and move on with your day.

SomeoneSomewhere,

2-3 reasonable meals a day does not double your weight. Calories come from other sources, or unreasonable sized meals.

ZILtoid1991,
ZILtoid1991 avatar

Not with my meds unfortunately. Once you read the less official stuff about it, a "very stict diet" is recommended (impossible due to money and my mother liking traditional high calorie food), the sleep issues are "mitigated" by toxic positivity alone.

AquaTofana,

OMG Im so glad this sub made it over here! I was extremely active in the original one back in 2013-2015 when I initially dropped a fuckton (for me) of weight!

I ended 2023 only 5 lbs off my highest weight ever, so clearly it’s time to remind myself all those lessons I’d learned a decade ago!

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t know why all Posts here get downvoted. Even this one! I guess people read them and believe that they are meant as the content and not tone post the content?

Good on you though OP for your progress!

hallucination,

I think it's just fat people who are mad, I've already got some of the expected comments. It's funny you say that about the downvotes, because on my end on Kbin, the posts are upvoted, then I check Lemmy and I see they are downvoted. Guess votes aren't federating right

Limitless_screaming,
Limitless_screaming avatar

Kbin by design doesn't federate downvotes. You can only see downvotes from people on Kbin, but nowhere else.

jordanlund,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

I think the danger of a community like this is that once the trolls discover it, you will be filled with nothing but hate posts and memes top to bottom.

I hope you stay on top of the moderation queue because it will get ugly when that happens (and it WILL happen).

hallucination,

Agreed. People will find out quick that this isn't 4chan, it won't be allowed to devolve into a fat hate group. Thank you for your insight though, you're very right. Kbin mod tools are limited but I will do my absolute best to make sure we stay on topic

SupraMario,

The same sub on Reddit has been around for a good while and I’ve not seen anything that is hatefilled there. The mods seem to do a damn good job of it and so do the users policing each other. I think it’ll be fine here as well, and you have got your head on straight so you’ll do fine as a mod here.

muse,
muse avatar

You aren't looking really hard then. Seeing as my knee jerk reaction was to hide this sub after witnessing the hate masquerading as help there.

Actually fuck it still gonna do so. Subs like this just create more EDs than they help

hallucination,

Luckily you can block me and the community and never see me again, and move on with your day. HAES almost killed me, HAES gave me BED which is an ED, restricting calories isn't the only ED that counts as a damaging and self destructive. If this so distressing, then please do block me.

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