If you've got questions about Emacs, Guix, Guile, or other related topics and want a friendly place to ask them, come check out the new System Crafters Forum!
@daviwil If only it was not a discourse forum (was hoping for an old school kinda forum, working without much JS) ... But I will consider it, if the need is dire.
@zelphirkaltstahl Yeah, I didn't consider the JavaScript requirement when I chose it, but the quality of the experience more than makes up for it, I think.
@slackline@sqrtminusone You can definitely use eww to view the forum but it appears you can't log in or write posts with it due to the lack of JavaScript engine
@stebalien@sqrtminusone Yeah, there's still a mailing list mode but I'm not sure how effective it is. If forum users want to try it, I can turn it on for one of the categories
@sqrtminusone@daviwil Partly why web forums are such a poor substitute for USENET newsgroups. I dislike these forums and seldom use them (two exceptions: mobileread.com and pyra-handheld.com but visit infrequently even then).
I would love to see a systemcrafters usenet newgroup... maybe on feedbase.org? Just musing out loud here.
@ericsfraga@sqrtminusone This is the first I've heard of Feedbase! There are a few other benefits to Discourse in particular that made it seem particularly useful for us. I was pretty close to using plain mailing lists for this purpose, but the Discourse experience is really good despite not being as plain-text/Emacs friendly.
As others mentioned, there is a mailing list feature for Discourse forums but I haven't tried it out yet. That may be one way to get it into Gnus or other programs.
@publicvoit@ericsfraga@sqrtminusone Discourse is very different than Reddit, Discord, etc, because it's Free Software and because all user data can be exported and migrated to an instance hosted elsewhere.
@publicvoit@ericsfraga@sqrtminusone Discourse probably doesn't tick a lot of those boxes, but does it need to? I think it's a good platform for providing a nice community experience that I can control and doesn't have ads or other manipulative features.
I know it's not "ideal" but it is pretty nice. And there's also the mailing list mode for people who want to use their own email client.
@publicvoit@daviwil I understand the sentiment, and it's correct in theory, but if you want me to actually /participate/ in a "community", Discourse is the best and most usable/pleasant option I know of and it's worth the risks and trade-offs for many (most?) people/cases.
@jbaty@daviwil Well, this might be your point of view. However, in my article, I pointed out all the things that Usenet (for example) was able to provide without excluding many people with various needs.
And: why settle for something like Discourse when we already had something much better since many decades? 🤷
@daviwil@sqrtminusone@publicvoit Sorry David, I was not trying to say it's not useful to others and I understand your reasons for setting this up. I just find having to open up web browsers intrusive! As always, YMMV.
@ericsfraga@sqrtminusone@publicvoit no worries! It may be possible that someone from the community will get itchy enough to figure out how to bring it into Emacs, so stay tuned :)
Auth is a POST request with login & password that returns a session cookie with Set-Cookie. And it seems like the cookie can be used instead of an API key.
@sqrtminusone@publicvoit@ericsfraga it seems like this may be the admin API, not sure if a user can use the same endpoints. There is a way to get a user API key though but I haven't looked at whether there is a different set of endpoints for that purpose
@sqrtminusone@daviwil@ericsfraga I'd prefer a Discourse to NNTP gateway instead. Then you'd be able to use it with maybe hundreds of clients not just Emacs. 😉
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