leafn4give,

George Monbiot rips apart the agitators opposing any cuts to consumption or production of or other products. Those agitators put their personal & industry interests above the interests of current & future generations as well as the animals who are brutalised & killed. A pity that George still uses the & word “” though :“Call me all the names you want – I won’t stop telling the truth about livestock farming” https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/14/livestock-farming-soy-soyboy

paulthenerd,
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@leafn4give I've been doing the almost plant based thing (still can't get off Lurpak because the plant based alternatives I can get are horrid and all contain palm oil which ruins everything its put in) and I have to say just that experience has absolutely destroyed every myth about plant based diets for me. Depending how Christmas dinner goes, chances are high that I won't ever go back, plus Lurpak have a plant based varient coming in 2024 so who knows on that front

leafn4give,

@paulthenerd well done for doing the best you can to plant-base your diet. I can’t advise on alternatives to butter that avoid palm oil as I don’t have any need to use them. I agree that #palmoil should be avoided. I’ve seen for myself the tropical forest destruction, habitat deprivation & mono-cropped deserts it can cause. However, the production of #dairy products has a range of #enviromental impacts too. Furthermore, it exploits & harms #sentient beings needlessly.

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