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superfes, in New Discord TOS binds you to forced arbitration - Opt-Out Now

Guess they have a press release about compromised user data to release on May 30th…

Which undoubtedly already happened.

Splatterphace, in New Discord TOS binds you to forced arbitration - Opt-Out Now

Well, they’re forcing ads on the free version now, so maybe Teamspeak is the place to be 😉

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

How’s Mumble these days?

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Unironically have wanted to spin up a murmur server for a few months now. Maybe I’ll make that my project for the day.

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Do it!

Last time it took me like a hr start to finish to setup one. Was pretty easy.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

I did - biggest snag was permissions in docker container, then I couldn’t figure out how admin configuration was setup (who calls an admin account “SuperUser”?!). I kept giving the general join password prompt the admin pass, thinking that was the only credential and it would bind my account with admin rights. It was only when I read the fourth tutorial (yes, the first three were outdated or wrong, and the official docs were as useful as a doorstop) and they mentioned specifically “SuperUser” as the account, did I try that. Oh look, a new password field!

silently rages

But after that, it was as expected.

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Yes!!! I think I remember seeing that!

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Revolt is FOSS and self-hostable

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Better off with Matrix TBH. Yeah, it’s group audio is so so, but you can always use something else if need be.

Appoxo,
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Does Teamspeak has a chat that can be browsed later on? Else it’s not useful for anything other than regular voice chat.
Rather I’d start renting a small vps and set up Matrix and if voice chat is not natively supported I’d also set up Teamspeak alongside.

MajesticFlame,

Matrix is quite similar to (older) Discord and therefore a good (easy to switch to) alternative.

HidingCat, in Discord Shouldn’t Be Your Main Messenger.

Things that Discord should be:

  • Small group voice chats (eg gaming groups)
  • Community chat, like IRC back in the day

Things that Discord shouldn't be:

  • IM client
  • Forum
  • Knowledge repository
  • Streaming platform
platysalty,

Knowledge repository

I die a little inside every time I see people posting documentation on locked discord threads

HidingCat,

I've come to find one of the most annoying things to read back on Reddit is "go look it up on the Discord." That's like reading a book that references to look up text scribbled on a napkin.

dingus, in Discord Shouldn’t Be Your Main Messenger.

I’m a bit confused at the article. Do people use Discord for things other than casual chit chat? Please don’t tell me there are businesses working on Discord.

For the average user, I don’t see issue with these things. It’s a chat app and it’s not that deep.

GladiusB,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

There are businesses coming in. I found it from gaming. We used Teamspeak at first but discord quickly became the meta.

It’s been a real ride and it’s great to see it evolve. However seeing big companies or the OF girls trying to capitalize kinda ruins the charm.

uselessauth,

There actually are businesses, schools and more using Discord for their communications. Some people also use it as their primary messaging app and that really shouldn’t be the case. For anything nonsensitive, it’s not that big a deal. I would still recommend checking out privacy respecting alternatives like the end-to-end encrypted client Element that uses the Matrix protocol

mysoulishome,
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There are businesses that use DISCORD for professional communication?? I believe you but that seems ridiculous. There are so so so many issues when it comes to what’s recorded, document retention, security, privacy. Maybe you discuss a court case on Teams or Slack or…ha…discord apparently…they can subpoena that as record. The software companies use has to be compliant on all of these areas. Crazy.

uselessauth,

We meet again :) And we even agree on this, too! Yeah, it’s madness. I know that it’s a stereo type that people don’t read TOS, T&C and privacy policies but when you have a product like Discord that is free one should realize that something’s not right.

chaotic_disorganizer, in Billions of public Discord messages may be sold through a scraping service

so does it only affect public servers or any server? the text isn’t quite clear on that…

uuhhhhmmmm,

If Spy Pet’s scrapper bot is on the server, then yes. It shouldn’t affect private or small public servers.

slazer2au, in Billions of public Discord messages may be sold through a scraping service
tyy, in New Discord TOS binds you to forced arbitration - Opt-Out Now

While I appreciate how worried everyone is about there being an arbitration clause, I am tired of how many people act like this is completely new and something that discord just started doing to make their platform even worse:

Discord has had an arbitration and due process waiver in their TOS since at least May 2020: discord.com/terms/terms-of-service-may-2020

This is nothing new, the only reason people assume it was just added is because they don’t bother to check and because discord bumps the opt-out date every time they change the general TOS. Still go ahead and use your rights to opt out, but people need to understand that discord isn’t getting worse in this regard, discord was just always like this.

itsnotits, in Enshittification Continues: Discord to begin showing advertisements on it's free platform

on its* free platform

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

You didn’t notice all the paid for shit they added recently?

You think they are going to stop here? It didn’t stop when they added nitro…

This shit is just the beginning. There is no bottom. It’s self hosted open source or barbarism.

Line.

Go.

Up.

RealFknNito, (edited ) in Enshittification Continues: Discord to begin showing advertisements on it's free platform
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

So like… Buy Nitro. Free services aren’t free. You pay with money, data, or ads. Pick one or multiple.

Edit: Why are you booing me? I’m right. Discord isn’t Peer to Peer so servers cost money. A lot of money. Get over yourselves and stop bitching about ads or pay for the shit you use.

Shadowedcross,

There’s a reason a lot of privacy focused people don’t use discord you know…

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah because they’re typically hyper-paranoid about shit like if Discord knows if your keyboard is plugged in or not. I just don’t get why the fuck people on the Discord community are allergic to supporting Discord. Everyone just wants free shit and it’s getting old.

Shadowedcross,

It collects information about almost everything you do in the app, and since there’s no e2ee, that includes seeing every single message you send, which is great for moderation, not so great for privacy, especially in case of a breach.

There are plenty of people who support discord, I’ve been a nitro user for years, I just don’t think the service as a whole should become shittier just because not every single person pays for it. There are also concerns about its desire to go public, since there’s almost always more enshittification leading up to a company becoming public, as well as after.

Ultragigagigantic,
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People like you would have never allowed public libraries to exist. Good thing your ancestors didn’t stop it from happening.

I hope someday soon you escape from that tiny little box you think in.

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

Hey dipshit, libraries are funded by taxes, Discord isn’t. Find a bridge.

Zidane,

I have nitro and still saw ads, what now angry man

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

They should fix that 🤷‍♂️

Zink,
@Zink@pawb.social avatar

Fix? Sounds completely intentional. Nitro was never said to block ads, anyways. And giving money to a company because they added ads is incentive for them to do more.

Ultragigagigantic,
@Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world avatar

People did buy nitro. When will it be enough? The answer is NEVER.

Capitalism.

RealFknNito,
@RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

When will it be enough?

When they aren’t losing money? They wouldn’t unleash an optics nightmare for a few more dollars. Only answer is not enough people bought Nitro and with attitudes like yours, it makes sense.

Donut, in Enshittification Continues: Discord to begin showing advertisements on it's free platform

Trust Discord to gamify sponsored content.

I get the hostile stance towards Discord considering where we are, but calling them just advertisements is a bit misleading.

It’s not some screen real estate forever dedicated to show you various 3rd party ads like other platforms do. And what platform let’s you opt-out of ads without paying money?

Not saying this is a great development though. I just feel like Lemmy loves to seethe at anything non-FOSS just for existing.

What’s the best platform to replace Discord with? Revolt or Matrix? Something else?

apprehensively_human,

What’s the best platform to replace Discord with? Revolt or Matrix? Something else?

For some reason I thought Guilded was FOSS but I guess I was wrong on that. Matrix is probably the better option but good luck getting your existing groups to switch over there from Discord.

Zink,
@Zink@pawb.social avatar

It’s not fucking about the fact that the ads are meager. It’s about the fact that there are ads.

It’s not like you go to sleep and wake up to find the things you love are suddenly ad-laden, have subscription services, and removed hundreds of features. But every time we say " yeah this is fine " then they’ll add just a little more, and keep doing that until they’ve successfully ruined their platform.

lemmytellyousomething, in New Discord TOS binds you to forced arbitration - Opt-Out Now

Hadn’t used my account for months anyway, but this seems a good reason to delete it…

loxdogs, in New Discord TOS binds you to forced arbitration - Opt-Out Now

Can someone explain me, what opt-out is?

sharkfucker420, in Enshittification Continues: Discord to begin showing advertisements on it's free platform
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Use aliucord on mobile Its against tos so you might be banned but 🤷

Shadowedcross,

Only if they find out, which is unlikely

M500, in Enshittification Continues: Discord to begin showing advertisements on it's free platform

Things like Lemmy and mastodon give me hope for this stuff.

Hopefully people start to migrate to another platform. I’m not a big discord user, but it seems that matrix could almost be a drop in replacement.

Cruxifux, in Enshittification Continues: Discord to begin showing advertisements on it's free platform

How special for all of us discord users.

andrewta,

Come back to teamspeak.

Bahnd,

Never left, still hosts my ancient TS server and TS5 (they skipped TS4 for some reason) was meant to be a clone of discords UI with Teamspeaks server backend. My community is old and cermudgenly so we never changed off the old client because it works.

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