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Sir_Osis_of_Liver, in The Toyota Mirai Outsold the Supra in 2023
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Toyota Mirai MSRP $50,595
Toyota GR Supra $47,535

The Mirai has the novelty of being a hydrogen car. Pretty decent car all around if you're in a place that has hydrogen infrastructure.
The Supra is a badge engineered BMW Z4. Some die-hard Toyota fans have a hard time with that. Two seat sports cars are a pretty small niche in general.

RaoulDook, in The Toyota Mirai Outsold the Supra in 2023

Well the Supra costs a fortune, but I’d love to have one if it was affordable.

lemmyshmemmy, in Engine maker Cummins agrees to pay $1.67 billion to settle claims it bypassed emissions tests

Once again, cars and car manufacturers fucking up the planet for the rest of us.

reddig33, in GM has cut its Buick dealership network in half through buyouts

Why does the Buick badge even still exist at this point?

TheArstaInventor,
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I think buick actually is a major brand for GM in china and that has kept the brand alive so far.

reddig33,

It used to be thought of as a luxury brand there. I’m not sure that it is looked at that way anymore.

If I was GM CEO, I’d bring back Saturn, put all the EVs under that brand, and let the dealerships come crying later when no one wants anything but EVs. I’d also sell Saturns direct like Tesla and then sue in court for that right.

I’d also let the Buick brand die off in North America, if not elsewhere.

TheArstaInventor,
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That would actually be smart, bringing back saturn, I think that brand was really cool and would have a much better image than a buick anyways lol.

reddig33, (edited ) in Ford is the most-recalled automaker for the third year running

GM is coming for Ford’s recall crown with their current product line.

electrek.co/…/auto-journalists-blazer-ev-road-tri…

jalopnik.com/chevy-silverado-gmc-sierra-pickup-tr…

TheArstaInventor,
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Both american automotive companies competing for 1st place! Lol.

PP_BOY_, in Ford is the most-recalled automaker for the third year running
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90% of all Fords sold in the last 50 years are still on the road.

The other 10% actually made it home.

TheArstaInventor, in Testing Lemmy.world and Kbin federation

Final update: Federation works.

n3m37h, in Tesla Has The Highest Accident Rate Of Any Auto Brand

False sense of safety makes shittier drivers, hence why RAM (massive trucks) is a close 2nd

TheArstaInventor,
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I actually agree with this.

snooggums,
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RAM is second because it is a cheap truck marketed to an economic class with a massive alcoholism problem in rural areas where there is no mass transit option.

Your point is accurate about Tesla drivers.

n3m37h,

I can’t tell you how many people over the years that have stated that they drive trucks because its safer and they are ALL shit drivers

Most cases I’d say its safer to drive with a alcoholic than a shit driver in a truck (or Tesla)

agent_flounder, in Alfa Romeo Doesn't Want To Become An SUV Brand
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I like it and am glad they’re sticking to sedans. Seeing porche and bmw come out with SUVs seemed like jumping the shark to me.

morphballganon,
TheArstaInventor,
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SUVs are literally dominating, sedans are although way better, it's time people stop chasing heavy tall cars for no reason, atleast many people do.

TheArstaInventor,
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full-size sedans can be a great SUV alternative for families, they need to make a comeback.

Dewbs84, in Alfa Romeo Doesn't Want To Become An SUV Brand

I don’t think anyone thought of them as an SUV brand anyways so… good job Alfa Romeo?

TheArstaInventor,
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I'd counter that with the fact that most of their lineup is still dominated by SUV models and I wouldn't be surprised if most of their sales are from the SUVs either, although I don't have sales data in-hand atm.

Dewbs84,

Something tells me I’m not their target demographic cause I didn’t know that lol

Skanky, in Volkswagen brings back physical buttons for all new cars | Autocar

Hyundai truly has this figured out (2023 Sonata N-Line)

Physical buttons for everything related to what you would need while driving. Everything else on the touchscreen.

OpenStars, in Volkswagen brings back physical buttons for all new cars | Autocar
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My 9-year-old Subaru has physical buttons. The car still ignores them when it's busy "thinking", like leaving the sound blasting at whatever volume setting it was on previously, but now with a different song, and there is nothing I can do to shut it the hell up for like a minute or two while it finishes booting up the OS.

Pro-Tip: "Physical buttons" don't have to mean a damn thing.:-(

Edit: I do like the tactile feel of them though.:-)

CheeseNoodle,

Feel is the main part really, means you don’t have to take your eyes off the road.

OpenStars,
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I suppose... but when I tell it to mute, and it ignores me entirely, that does not "feel" good either:-).

Though fortunately it's only the first minute or so after starting up, and after that I do very much appreciate them:-D.

blindsight,

That’s one of my 3 complaints about my wife’s 2018 Subaru:

  1. It takes over a full second to shift into drive.
  2. The clock shows you the date but not the time when you start the car. You know, the one time I literally always look for the clock to see if I left on time? Yeah. No clock. (Seriously, what the what? Why?)
  3. You can’t turn off the radio when the car is starting. (For a while I thought it was while reversing, but I think that’s just because it’s the first thing I do every time I turn in the car after my radio-listening wife has parked.)

Other than those three problems, it’s a great car.

It has physical buttons in the steering wheel for most functions, so this article isn’t very relevant. Sure, you can’t adjust your front-back speaker volume while driving, but you shouldn’t be doing anything that involved while driving anyway.

OpenStars,
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Absolutely. Overall the Subarus are the best designed car I've seen - I would change those few things, but it's a small list and they are very minor.:-)

ArcaneGadget, in Volkswagen brings back physical buttons for all new cars | Autocar

Whoop-dee-fucking-doo! Are we supposed to cheer for what looks like 9 lousy buttons and 2 tablets glued to a couch-back? If this is peak automotive interior design; you guys can keep it…

Also; the “joystick-thingie” just makes the problem worse! Now you have to navigate a cursor on a screen instead of “just touching the thing”. That takes your eyes off the road for longer yet!

RGB3x3,

Bro, clearly you’ve never used the rotating joystick because it’s WAY WAY better than a touchscreen.

You take your eyes off the road far less because it’s quick, tactile, and right near where one of your hands rests anyway. Mazda has been doing them for years and the system is far and away the best mechanism for interacting with car infotainment.

A touchscreen is incredibly difficult to use while driving. I can fly through menus so fast with the rotating joystick that would take ages tapping a touchscreen.

grue,

Bro, clearly you’ve never used the rotating joystick because it’s WAY WAY better than a touchscreen.

Sure, in the same way that merely having the shit beaten out of you and being left with life-long debilitating injuries is “WAY WAY better” than being murdered. It’s damning with the faintest of praise.

You know what’s an actually-good interface? Having buttons that do only one thing each so that you don’t have to look at them at all!

I can fly through menus so fast

The speed at which you can navigate a menu is entirely beside the point. Having menus exist in the first place is the kind of shit that belongs on one of those “they have played us for absolute fools” memes, except unironically. User interfaces designed to be used while driving simply shouldn’t be modal!

Car UIs peaked in the '90s and have been getting more and more unsafe ever since.

justlookingfordragon, in Testing Lemmy.world and Kbin federation
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I can see posts that are not older than 14 hours (LW user) so it looks as if the older content didn’t federate, but the newly created one does now.

PS: the “mod” panel is still empty so the magazine looks unmoderated from this end, despite actually having mods on the original instance.

Nougat, in Volkswagen brings back physical buttons for all new cars | Autocar

Mazda does it right. Not only are there plenty of physical buttons for everything you would commonly use, the infotainment screen is not a touch screen. There is a knob in the center console which acts as a sort of "mouse" to operate the screen options.

The_v,

You mean the knob and buttons that is right in front of the the cupholder in some models. A little turning knob to control stuff that any drink you have is going to interfere with access and potentially spill on. The salesman was trying to point it out as a feature. I laughed and left the dealership when I saw that little bit of stupidity.

Seriously, a touch screen isn’t a big deal as long as you have physical buttons for the most frequent actions in an easier location.

RGB3x3,

It’s behind the cupholders, what are you talking about? Your arm doesn’t cross the cupholders to get to it.

The_v,

Look at the interior of the CX-3. They swapped it around with the CX-30.

Bytemeister,

I’ve got a 2016 Honda, and although the infotainment system is noticeably showing it’s age, you can do any of the functions using either the touchscreen, or the buttons around the edge. My only complaint is that you can only do things like typing in a destination or connecting a phone if the vehicle is stopped. It would be nice if that feature was disabled when a passenger was in the front seat, since they can safely operate the controls independently from the driver.

Also, only the Audio and navigation are in the infotainment system, still have physical controls for climate. It’s in the Goldilocks zone of automotive infotainment technology.

The_v,

I ended up purchasing a '22 Mitsubishi Outlander Sport for my teenager for those reasons. The infotainment center was “dated” according to the reviews. Lots of buttons for most things and a basic touchscreen that ran auto/carplay.

DoomBot5,

Yeah, probably the worst design possible. Having both options is a maybe. Having no touch screen makes everything a multi step process you need to watch the screen for to know is working.

JillyB,

I thought Mazdas actually did have touch screens. They just disable touch inputs most of the time.

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