MichaelPorter,
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Levels of snow plow engagement:

  1. My job is driving a plow.
  2. My job is moving snow.
  3. My job is moving snow off this road/driveway.
  4. My job is to make movement easier for the people on this road/driveway.
  5. My job is to make movement easier for people in general.

Most plow drivers seem to be at #2 or #3. As a pedestrian, and winter cycling enthusiast (to be clear, I’m a supporter, not a participant, yet), I really wish more plow drivers and snow removal contractors were at #5.

Every time I go for a walk, I have to jump over places on the sidewalk where a contractor has carelessly thrown the snow from a driveway (thought - is this a bylaw infraction?). Not to mention all the times a sidewalk has been plowed, only to be filled in again by a street plow.

I’ll be back in the spring, complaining how all the winter crap from the streets gets pushed into bike lanes…

WhippoorwillSong,
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@MichaelPorter There are so many "factions" of ploughs working at odds with each other after a storm.

Street plough does its thing, creates snowbanks on sidewalks. Sidewalk ploughs blow it back onto the street.

People come out to clear their driveways and blow it out onto the sidewalks.

Street ploughs come back and blow snow into new snowbanks at the end of the driveways.

There's got to be a better way, a better system...

MichaelPorter,
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@WhippoorwillSong A few years from now, we’ll be wondering why we don’t get any snow in the wintertime…

WTL,
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@MichaelPorter I don't know if it is a bylaw infraction, but I certainly do think it should be. I'll email 311 about it and see what they say.

There's a small parking lot near us that used to use a snow blower to just blow their snow into the street (city got a bunch of complaints from neighbours). 😳

WTL,
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human3500,
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@WTL @MichaelPorter Totally useless approach

WTL,
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@human3500 @MichaelPorter It's certainly less than ideal, but realistically, I'm not sure how we'd fix it either.

human3500,
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@WTL @MichaelPorter 1. They could accept video evidence
2. They ticket the home owner for snow clearly dumped on the road from their property - let the homeowner pass the ticket to the right person
3. Ticket the serial offenders (we all know someone near by dumping snow)

What they do today is the absolute least they can do to say they are doing something. Pretending that their hands are tied when they can write any bylaw they want is disingenuous.

stephanie,
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@WTL Same problem we had with garbage all over the sidewalk on Cumberland when we used to live there. We had to complain when it happened, but then bylaw had a week to come inspect (garbage had passed at that point)..... so nothing to be done.

@MichaelPorter

mariellequinton,
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@stephanie @WTL @MichaelPorter I'm going to make everyone feel better because I actually reported it once and bylaw came by and agreed that the business had done it but they couldn't charge them for it because I hadn't actually witnessed it. However, they did give them a stern talking to and it actually worked and the business stopped putting their snow on the sidewalk while clearing their parking lot. This was like a mountain of snow and the business figured people could just walk through their parking lot. Um, no.

MichaelPorter,
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@mariellequinton @stephanie @WTL Thank you for your service 😊
You've encouraged me to be more proactive…

mariellequinton,
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@MichaelPorter @stephanie @WTL Bylaw was quite nice about it. When I reported it although I specified it was on Carling the report required an intersection and somehow bylaw thought I meant the side street. They called me from the side street and said "I don't see anything" so I clarified it was Carling and then bylaw went around the corner and said something like "Holy cow" lol. Anyway, they called me back after talking to the business and explained everything to me.

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