This view of the rooftops of Gaza shows very clearly, that #israel is making a precise choice of targets, and not bombing the city into a "parking lot".
@Fishbed They had three weeks to leave.
Close to a Million people left Gaza city.
Those who chose to stay, are with Hamas, no matter how they portray themselves as part of Hamas PR.
@chrisschmitz You can't expect everyone to be able to escape a crowded city in 3 weeks, especially when a lot of them were coerced by Hamas to stay and a lot of others were (rightfully) skeptical of their ability to fulfill needs when they left, especially since humanitarian aid has been so scarce and looting has taken place just to secure it.
To simplify the decision on one's morality and affiliation to "They're part of Hamas, kill em" based simply on where they are is stupid
@chrisschmitz You're taking a pretty hard line by saying they don't exist. To say everyone still in North Gaza is Hamas-affiliated is to sentence thousands of innocents to death on flimsy charges. To justify indiscriminate bombing in lieu of a ground invasion on that basis is outrageous.
The IDF has men who signed themselves up to die for their country, and, unlike Harris of '45, they have the ability to invade from the ground. Instead they sacrifice Civilians to that end.
@chrisschmitz This isn't the Second World War. There's no need to repeat Dresden over again. Israel has Gaza literally surrounded and blocked off. A ground invasion would kill fewer civilians, and the difference (in the order of tens, if not hundreds of thousands of civilians) is directly Israel's fault.
Hamas can do this, Hamas can do that, but if Hamas was reasonable, they wouldn't have killed thousands of Israelis. Israel, though, is a state, and is expected to be the bigger man here.
@chrisschmitz Apparently not enough to put down their airpower-only order of operations. You've either taken Israeli propaganda to heart or you've failed to think about ways to destroy Hamas other than aerial bombings.
@chrisschmitz@Fishbed Rules are rules. And since Israel is a state actor they are obligated to follow them. Civilians are civilians regardless if you urge them to evacuate or not. Like it or not but Israel cannot ignore international laws regardless of Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization and should be destroyed, but not at any cost. Israel is still responsible for its actions and must avoid civilian casualties as much as possible.
@chrisschmitz@Zimme83 Not necessarily. Military necessity has to outweigh harm to civilians for an action like bombing a hospital to be deemed legal (and alternative approaches should be taken into account when defining military necessity).
The airpower-only operations plan is simply convenient, not necessary. An alternative approach to destroying Hamas headquarters could easily have been taken, like an airborne raid.
@chrisschmitz@Fishbed There are rules for such cases also, and what's allowed and not is not up to you or me to decide. But fact is fact. Israel have to play by the rules, like it or not.
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