grimalkina,
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I'm sorry WHAT and none of you told me?????

Position ENTIRELY reversed on Python. Literally going to learn it now. Call me pythonista Cat. I am so serious. WHAT.

https://masto.machlis.com/@smach/112462436451472935

juliaferraioli,
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@grimalkina it is lovely. Everyone here is wonderful. Masks. Everything about this event telegraphs that the @pycon cares deeply about the well-being of their attendees. 💖

Sevoris,

@grimalkina holy crap this is some awesome social integrity from PyConf. This is amazing. This is awesome. I think my heart is bursting a little? Thank you to whomever pushed this through.

coral,
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@grimalkina In practice, a lot of folks are only wearing surgical masks, or aren't following the requirement.

Python (the community) is good at its core, but like any community, it has jerks

grimalkina,
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qlp,
@qlp@linh.social avatar

@grimalkina The local PyCascades conference had a similar masking policy, IIRC, and it was a key reason why I wanted to go. Alas, travel cost and other things coming up meant that I could only attend remotely.

I'm hoping they'll have the same policy next year when they come to town.

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@grimalkina The python community has been awesome in this regard.

I do think some of this is because of @phpledge which has some conferences and speakers considering Public Health as an important factor in a healthy community.

Some of us are missing from your public spaces . No public health policy is a major reason why.

grimalkina,
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@onepict @phpledge totally. I have covid/public health safety and ventilation called out as a criteria on my speaker page and always ask every organizer about it. But I've felt very pressured and gate kept from professional opportunities about it and punished for raising the issue, and as a high risk person in this world you can't always blow your entire spoons budget or keep risking your livelihood over it. So yeah the conf side is key.

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@grimalkina @phpledge I wish more conferences would consider this.

Including various @EC_NGI events that also don't have codes of conduct.

You can't build a diverse secure ecosystem of professionals if you don't want to put the effort into making it safe for that community to attend.

Who's voices are you ignoring? How unsafe down the line do you make it for yourself and your projects in the future.

It's nice US and Canada events are starting to do so. Be nicer if more European folks did.

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@grimalkina But it is gatekeeping, and I do know it's affecting my career and my opportunities.

Plus calling it out also does it. So it's great you do ask for those considerations on your speakers page.

I don't think advocating for your health is a bad thing to ask for.

I wish others saw it that way. But the more of us who do so, despite the cost, the more we normalise this idea.

grimalkina,
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My wife (she teaches Python): who's the inferior language NOW 😏

Me: 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 LET ME IN

codemonkey85,
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@grimalkina I’m a C# guy, but it looks like the python people are pretty awesome!

grimalkina,
@grimalkina@mastodon.social avatar

Wow actually so emotional about this because every time my wife goes to a conference even though she masks, she books an extra couple of nights away from me to be extra safe because of my high risk status. It is exhausting and expensive and always makes us miserable and sad. To imagine a conf we could conceivably even BOTH go to and just not shoulder the burden of being the only people masking would be a completely different experience.

grimalkina,
@grimalkina@mastodon.social avatar

My empirical software research: "cultures with a high sense of belonging and many learning entry points drive more rapid and efficient technology innovation"

Also me: committing to learning a programming language I've thought about learning for years because of a mask policy

This is like the mirror universe of me-search. Didn't-know-they-would-get-me-search

RainofTerra,
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@grimalkina I loved python before but I love it even more now.

smach,
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@grimalkina ❤️ One of my husband's younger sisters was vaxxed & boosted but died of Covid during the Omicron surge even though she was super cautious, because she had high-risk medical issues.
Why would someone mind wearing a mask at an event so people with less medical good fortune than they enjoy can participate? It seems like such a small way to be kind to others. (Not to mention lowering your own risks.)
But here we are for the most part.

grimalkina,
@grimalkina@mastodon.social avatar

@smach my heart breaks for your loss. Thank you for sharing.

internic,
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@grimalkina Historically not a Python fan?

grimalkina,
@grimalkina@mastodon.social avatar

@internic for completely baseless reasons I don't take seriously (tired and didn't know where to start learning/had a bad experience with the community years ago and decided to ignore it even though I knew it wasn't fair to the community as a whole/scientific statistics seemed more trusted with R)

faassen,
@faassen@fosstodon.org avatar

@grimalkina

@internic

It's not about the basics of Python, but to get beyond may I recommend the book "Fluent Python"? I am highly biased as a friend wrote it but less biased people said it really helped them to make the language click for them.

grimalkina,
@grimalkina@mastodon.social avatar

@faassen @internic thank you!

grimalkina,
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@faassen @internic I'm not above my choices also being about supporting friends

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