dangillmor,
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Such moral cowards running New York University -- ordering student protestors to write phony apologies.

This is right out of the authoritarian playbook -- and it craps on every notion of freedom of expression.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/17/nyregion/nyu-protests-apology-letters.html

You don't have to agree with the protestors' politics. But you should damn well understand that America is in wave of McCarthyism right now.

Azuaron,
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@dangillmor "In order to return to the university, some students would be required to complete a 49-page set of readings and tasks — 'modules' — known as the Ethos Integrity Series, geared at helping participants 'make gains' in 'moral reasoning' and 'ethical decision making.'"

The people protesting genocide are not the ones that need to make gains in moral reasoning and ethical decision making.

JoBlakely,
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@dangillmor reminds me of the church forcing Joan of Arc to recant her testimony, and lie, to be saved from burning.
She did, then repented of having given false testimony then was burned.
To make someone confess, apologize, pretend as though what they did was wrong, when what they did was right, is an assault on a persons integrity and freedoms.
It is coercive and not justice. It doesn’t want truth. It wants submission.

drdrang,
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@dangillmor McCarthyism, yes, but also reminiscent of the forced conversion of Jews during [pick a period of history]. Once upon a time, university administrators would have enough attachment to scholarship to recognize irony when they saw it.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@drdrang @dangillmor

Yup, forced conversion of Jews to submit to Identity 15-3, Israeli nationalism. Embrace us or die.

rticks,
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@dangillmor

The New York University Delores Umbridge Academy

Fionas_Father,

@dangillmor There is something murky here.

Quite a lot of overlap between those who think it is fine for students and professors to shout down and dis-invite speakers they disagree with (Seinfeld being a recent minor example). Yet find it an outrage that people who have been expressing themselves very clearly are given some limit in how long this can go on.

Seems to me that people of all stripes are pretty inconsistent as to when and to what extent freedom of speech ought to be sacrosanct.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@dangillmor

:100a: :100_valid:

RedScare 2.0 Except this time, stopping genocide is the great evil.

tayledras,
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@dangillmor

In other news, OpenAI reports an uptick in ChatGPT generated essays on the social contract and publicly accepted forms of protest.

PROMPT:

"I am an NYU student asked to write an apology letter for protesting Israel's actions in Gaza. Please write a 500-word essay in an contrite and apologetic tone with the conclusion that I'll be a polite and good citizen."

lightninhopkins,
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@dangillmor I mean, honesty it's time the university system goes away. It no longer serves students, it just another sink hole of debt.

opethminded,
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@dangillmor I’d have more sympathy if they had justly advocated for freedom of the Palestinian people instead of shilling for an internationally recognized terrorist organization, lovingly branding these equal oppressors of Gazans as the “Resistance” and whitewashing their genocidal slogans calling for the eradication all non-Muslims from Palestine. Too bad their fancy degrees didn’t teach them that there are more than 2 sides of this story and Tiktok isnt the best place to learn foreign affairs

rticks,
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@opethminded @dangillmor

You are a supporter of Terrorism and Genocide

I would feel a lot better if you would just admit it

#ButHamas

localzuk,
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@opethminded @dangillmor yet you have decided to side with one of those 2 sides... hypocrite.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@opethminded @dangillmor

There are easily 100k dead, matching in percentages the population killed off in Europe about a century ago. But that’s not the end of it, because famine and disease have specifically pursued as a means of war.

The world will remember Israel and the End Days crowd for this. Always.

pyperkub,
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@dangillmor I apologize to the Authoritarians for being opposed to authoritarianism.

Jonathanglick,
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