sun,
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tk,
@tk@bbs.kawa-kun.com avatar

@sun Fiat currency is a scam. :blobfoxgooglymlem:

GuerillaOntologist,
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@sun Tell me you don't understand MMT without telling me you don't understand MMT.

Hoss,
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Nobody understands MMT because it's fucking nonsense.

GuerillaOntologist,
@GuerillaOntologist@social.coop avatar

@Hoss @sun
Lol. You don't understand it. I've got a degree in neoclassical econ and let me tell you, MMT is far superior as both a description of actual financial system behavior, and as a predictive theory. MMT is based on accounting identities and studying the way banks actually work. While I was taught banks simply intermediate between savers and borrowers, transferring $ from one to the other, that's not how banks actually work. Talk to a banker if you don't understand.

sun,
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@GuerillaOntologist @Hoss I want to learn more about this tbh but it's frustrating knowing you probably need both a degree and experience to really understand what's going on at the Fed

ilja,

@sun not sure if this is what you look for, but the bank of england wrote an article "Money creation in the modern
economy" which may be of interest here https://web.archive.org/web/20140319122540/http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q102.pdf

@GuerillaOntologist @Hoss

Alex_Fog,
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when i see banks all i see is this :israel_burn:

also was that a real poast? a real anti Semite? we are all here actually. there are many of us. you might want to look that up 😆

sun,
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@Alex_Fog @Hoss @GuerillaOntologist this thread is ruined, I'm out.

feld,
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@GuerillaOntologist @Hoss @sun your degree is MMT propaganda, Keynes was wrong about everything, the problem is that under a system this complex it can take decades for consequences to rear their ugly heads.

> While I was taught banks simply intermediate between savers and borrowers, transferring $ from one to the other, that's not how banks actually work.

if that's literally all they taught you we're in serious trouble. so they didn't even cover money creation and destruction, the difference between wholesale money vs retail money, how reverse repo market works, the fact that bank customer deposits are a liability not an asset, the entire reason money market accounts were created in the 80s (scam scam scam), how the Federal Reserve fucked up so badly and now they don't even know how many dollars are in circulation anymore...

Things are so dire that in 2020 the lunatics changed policy to allow CMBS to be used as eligible collateral for loans through TALF. The entire system is being held up by toothpicks and duck tape. And guess what's about to fall apart? That collateral: commercial real estate.

Modern econ degrees are just investment/commercial bank propaganda. It has no connection to reality IMO. Economic theories cannot model the economy or human behavior, only supply and demand can when there's natural price discovery.

source: son of a banker, brother of a banker, i'm the austrian economics retard of the family

Hoss,
@Hoss@shitpost.cloud avatar

>That collateral: commercial real estate.
So the lockdowns were kinda like the government sawing through the branch it was sitting on, neat.

feld,
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@Hoss @sun @GuerillaOntologist yeah this is really really bad

I've been taking notes and here's some of the early warning signs (other than the obvious scary graphs of the CRES debt wall which nobody has the liquidity to survive)

St Louis: building sold for less than 2% of its peak price (sold $3.6M / peak $205M)

https://www.costar.com/article/642008108/one-of-st-louis-tallest-office-towers-empty-for-years-sells-for-less-than-2-of-its-peak-price

Ft Worth Texas tallest building (sold $12.3M / peak $137.5M)

https://www.foxbusiness.com/real-estate/fort-worths-tallest-building-sells-just-12-3m-auction-stunning-price-drop

San Francisco, 80% discount (sold $43.5M / peak $219M)

https://archive.is/2024.05.04-093548/https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/s-f-office-building-value-19438429.php

San Francisco, 90% discount (sold $6.5M / peak $62M)

https://archive.is/3VWm3

So what's gonna happen when that collateral turns out to be worth dogshit?

lain,
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sun,
@sun@shitposter.world avatar

@lain do you have this in tiktok form

lain,
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sun,
@sun@shitposter.world avatar

@lain there really is no upside to tiktok for the us government is there

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