anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

Russian state media continue to push the explanation that the arrested terrorists did it for money. Apparently, the salary for becoming a mass murderer was USD 5400.
They don't mention ISIS with a single word.

On a sidenote, it has always puzzled me that Russians in uniform so often wear masks on TV even in situations where it makes no operational sense. Are they not proud to be associated with their service?

HenrikBruunDK,
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@anderspuck Hmm, this is too convinient for Putin. Usually ISIS warriors are suicidal where most of them die in shootouts if they are in risk of being taken by authorities

mok0,
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@HenrikBruunDK @anderspuck Jake Broe has a comprehensive analysis in his latest video, pointing at some extremely strange facts. It definitely looks like FSB was involved in some way or another.

mok0,
@mok0@mastodon.online avatar

@HenrikBruunDK @anderspuck The Moscow police will arrest you 5 minutes after you put a flower on Navalny’s grave, yet they didn’t respond for 90 minutes after the attack.

anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

@mok0 @HenrikBruunDK It is not there to protect the people, but to protect the state.

mok0,
@mok0@mastodon.online avatar

@anderspuck @HenrikBruunDK On a certain level yes, but it doesn’t explain anything. An act of terrorism is also an attack on the state, and especially if they thought it was carried out by Ukraine as they say (they obviously don’t believe that themselves). 90 minutes is a looong time when the emergency center is max 5 minutes away. And they were warned. And they practiced terror attack on Crocus Hall. Etc etc.

anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

@mok0 @HenrikBruunDK I really, really want to reiterate that we should not overestimate the competence of these organizations. They don’t have people waiting in riot gear for these kinds of things. Also I’m not sure about the 90 minutes. I haven’t heard 30 minutes from other sources. That doesn't seem like an outrageous period of time for me.

mok0,
@mok0@mastodon.online avatar

@anderspuck @HenrikBruunDK While I can’t deny there is incompetence at play, there are just too many coincidences that can’t be explained by it. In any case, Putin looks like a clown who is not fully in control.

anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

@mok0 @HenrikBruunDK Which is one of the most important reasons why this probably was not a false flag. Even Putin would not voluntarily make a fool of himself.

Flies4no1,
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@anderspuck To be fair: many Russians become murderers in Ukraine for far less. They may consider asking for a raise or applying for a solid job with Isis.

anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

@Flies4no1 Actually not really. The bonuses they give to make people sign a contract with the Russian army are really big. These guys would probably have been better off joining the army.

t_mkdf,
@t_mkdf@ruhr.social avatar

@anderspuck @Flies4no1 question is what is scarier and/or more believable for the russian public: people committing mass murder for 5k Dollar or ISIS fanatics?

anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

@t_mkdf @Flies4no1 Truth be told, the questions of the perpetrators and their motives don’t get a lot of attention in the Russian media. They are mostly concerned with practical issues like the work to stabilize the building and how the victims receive help.

t_mkdf,
@t_mkdf@ruhr.social avatar

@anderspuck @Flies4no1 so more like: see we take care and control the situation. And conveniently omitting the why.

When I see people floating a potential FSB involvement I can't help but wonder whether the FSB started those rumours.

To make people believe nothing is true in the end.

anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

@t_mkdf @Flies4no1 I think that is very likely. In my view, the “false flag” narrative is very convenient for the Russians from an information warfare perspective.

ditol,
@ditol@freiburg.social avatar

@anderspuck @t_mkdf @Flies4no1 Ukrainian bloggers and "experts" came out with the FSB hypothesis pretty much immediately. GUR MO pretty much immediately declared the mass shooting be a "provocation" by Putin's special services.

anderspuck,
@anderspuck@krigskunst.social avatar

@ditol @t_mkdf @Flies4no1 Yes, it was an automatic reaction that they came out with before anyone had any clue about what’s going on. We also still see a lot of people who want this to be a false flag attack, because it fits some picture they have about the Russians.

andy,

@anderspuck

it makes no operational sense

I think you're transposing your own context ---a system mainly built on merit, law based-processes, and a high degree of permanence--- onto a rather different situation.

These officers revealing their identity wouldn't be desirable: it may interfere with any other businesses they may be involved in; it could question their credibility, as they may have been pushed up or down the system at will; they might be confronted by a previously accused who (they were ordered to roughen up, but as the tables turned) managed to wiggle out of the justice process by whatever means of corruption.

Transparency and showing a human face is not likely an important part of a system that is supposed to instil fear and terrorise people.

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