luckytran,
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Some hospitals refusing to mask anymore because they claim people are likely to get #COVID elsewhere anyway. That's a dereliction of duty. Regardless of what is happening elsewhere, no one should ever have to risk their health while seeking medical care. Do no harm.

meredithw,
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@luckytran Not to mention that it protects staff from catching nasty bugs from patients. If you don't care about the patients, how about self-interest!

csstrowbridge,
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@luckytran
"Some hospitals refusing to mask anymore because they claim people are likely to get #COVID elsewhere anyway."

According to this logic, everyone dies eventually, so we shouldn't provide ANY medical care.

greatgrandma,

@luckytran
I do not understand this. As an RN we wore masks long before the current pandemic to keep our patients safe as well as ourselves. Masks are not just for this particular virus. We swore an oath to do no harm. WTF is this?

staringatclouds,
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@luckytran So they're OK with endangering their staff's lives, proliferating an airborne disease & creating conditions for more variants ?

enbuenora,

@luckytran quite unfortunate that hospitals no longer believe in the germ theory of disease, that used to be one of the nicer achievements of human progress

AskPippa,
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@luckytran And yet hospitals is where you get a higher concentration of vulnerable and at-risk patients. Even catching a common cold from someone in a crowded waiting room can trigger serious problems in people with , , transplant recipients, etc. There must be data out there showing a drop in infections during wearing during mandates?
Not just hospitals, any healthcare setting where vulnerable people and sick people are likely to mix -- including their FP's clinic.

Ally_SMMiller,
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AskPippa,
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@Ally_SMMiller @luckytran I'm curious if any bodies monitor trends in nosocomial infections in general -- for all the various things people catch in hospital settings.

Ally_SMMiller,
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@AskPippa @luckytran Yes - reporting (and investigation) of MRSA and Clostridium Difficile infection, for example, is very strict in UK hospitals. Monitoring of other infections, less so - previously the data on Respiratory viruses (at least COVID and flu) was pretty good. I haven’t looked for a while though

DecafLaB,

@luckytran My husband had an endoscopy/colonoscopy at the same time last week. I live in MT, it's masks optional now. I was the only person who wore a mask the entire time. Not the doctor, nurses or anesthesiologist. I am a cancer survivor with an autoimmune disorder. I just can't anymore, these people simply do not care.

jab01701mid,

@luckytran Surgeons say : "Why wear a mask during an operation ? The patient probably already has an infection anyway"

marchuff,

@luckytran hey why clean the rooms or the operating room. THEY ARE JUST going to get germs from elsewhere.

anniegreens,
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@luckytran can you imagine? restaurants: employees don’t have to wash their hands after using the restroom, come on!! customers are likely to get Norovirus elsewhere 🙄

franktaber,
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@anniegreens @luckytran People are likely to get bacterial infections elsewhere so no need for surgeons to wash their hands.

stevesplace,

@luckytran I made my order in advance so I could pick it up. I called a ride sharing service. I put on my mask. I wore it in the car both ways, where I sat in the right rear position with the window open a bit. One driver wore a mask. One did not. In the store, one employee wore a mask. Others did not. I kept mine on.

Other than outdoors where I'm certain I'll be alone or at a distance from others e.g., garbage night/collecting my mail from a group mailbox, I always wear a mask wherever I go.

GhostOnTheHalfShell,
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@luckytran wtf? Masks prevent spreading most on the outgoing end than the incoming IIRC.
Both are important

lispi314,

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @luckytran Correct, but not wearing a mask by medical staff is indeed in contradiction with their oaths.

That's the idea here.

Depending on the kind of mask, non-valved respirators also protect both ways. There's no technical reason valved respirators can't be made to do that too, they're just not designed like that right now.

ned,

@luckytran
As I've said many times over the past few years, I find it absolutely wild that "back in my day" we refused to see a doctor because we expected that no matter what we went for, we would catch something worse in the waiting room.

Yet after a global pandemic and so many experts showing us that there is a better way which has worked fine in densely populated countries, we still haven't learned a damn thing.

No matter what level of masking you use elsewhere, keep them in medical care!

ECityMom,

@ned @luckytran we lost a family member a few years ago from complications from a hospital-acquired superbug. They'd originally been admitted for a broken knee.

cadenza,

@ned @luckytran I once went to the ER for a broken arm and caught a bad case of pneumonia while I was there. This was 2015.

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