mgorny,

This whole #urllib3/#OpenSSL situation is getting absurd.

I don't have sympathy for #OpenBSD or #LibreSSL. However, I can understand that they had good reasons to fork OpenSSL, and that switching back today would be hard. I can understand projects refusing to officially declare support and rejecting workarounds.

OTOH, pushing LibreSSL hate to the point of blocking Python implementations that don't link to OpenSSL is just horrible. Users get in the crossfire, again.

https://github.com/urllib3/urllib3/issues/2168

flameeyes,
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@mgorny I wish I had the charisma to convince people to learn to use different SONAMEs for these two so that they don't need to conflict all the time.

https://flameeyes.blog/tag/libressl/

cybertailor,

@flameeyes @mgorny they still think it's a drop-in replacement

mgorny,

@flameeyes, they would also need to separate symbols, so people wouldn't be conflicting when library tree ends up loading both.

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  • mgorny,

    @tseitr, apparently (I haven't tested myself). Though I don't think "broken" is the right word here since FWIU it would work just fine if they didn't explicitly block it.

    vimproved,

    @mgorny I used to think Distro Maintainers' job was to maintain packages. Now I've realized that it's actually to police the terrible decisions of upstreams

    mgorny, (edited )

    @vimproved, I wish we wouldn't have to care. The problem is that we're going to be affected by lots of "urllib3 < 2" deps added to workaround this.

    (talking purely from "unbiased" "non-political" distro maintainer perspective, i.e. my personal feelings about the decision aside)

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