Toastie,
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"If continues his current course, extraction of the lithium, copper, cobalt, nickel, graphite, and manganese vital for a green-energy transition will come at the cost of Indigenous lands and trust... it could also cost Biden the election."

Love the solidarity from ! ✊

https://www.newsweek.com/bidens-letdown-native-americans-threatens-indigenous-people-everywhere-opinion-1897073

krystyna,
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@Toastie
Sure go for fascism.

Toastie,
@Toastie@journa.host avatar

@krystyna The empire wants you to believe you only have two options. Indigenous people know both options are empire.

Toastie,
@Toastie@journa.host avatar

@krystyna Also 'liberals can abuse #Indigenous people however they want because at least they're not fascists' is an unbelievably common shit take.

And it's why so many Indigenous people don't trust liberals.

krystyna,
@krystyna@toad.social avatar

@Toastie

I know the general issue. I don’t know the specifics.
But I’m responding to purity tests at a very critical time in our democracy.

Toastie,
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@krystyna For you these might be purity tests. For Indigenous people, this is the unchecked pillaging of our lands---again.

Your democracy does not serve us.

ZillaMon,
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@Toastie you have hit this out of the ball park. Excellent take on this issue.

Toastie,
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@ZillaMon Thank you, but this take belongs to Dr. Doliwura Zakaria.

ArrowbearMoore,
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@Toastie
⅔ of the Interior Secretaries have been Republican. I hafta wonder how much that has contributed to this mess. It didn't happen overnight. Also, are Haaland's hands tied? Seems like she'd be pretty sympathetic to these issues. She's smart, has a good heart, I'd like to know what goes on behind the scenes. And how about Peltola, she has certainly turned out to be pro mining/road. I don't get it.
Where's the 'more bicycles, more transit, less cars, less tv/e gadgets" party?

Toastie,
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@ArrowbearMoore Haaland has not taken a clear public stance, to my knowledge, and I'd be interested to know what's going on behind the scenes, too.

From an AP story last year on Thacker Pass:

"Haaland, whose department oversees Thacker Pass, said that while she supports the right to peaceful protests, her agency is in favor of the mine because 'the need for our clean energy economy to move forward is definitely important.'”

https://apnews.com/article/lithium-mine-nevada-biden-tribes-electric-cars-fb6ae27060b4772f672dd94f160f4761

Misterhighwasted,
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@Toastie

What about the Green New Deal demographic. They stop using their lithium battery ohones & devices? They stop prormoting battery run EV cars to replace gas engines?

Can't have it both wsys. Its one or the other until a better battety source is develiped & put to use.

I would like an snswer from the GND/Save the Planet, No more Oil demographic, to this dilemma we face.
Absolutely honoring their just efforts, but this is a downside the world also must face.

I don't have the answer.

Toastie,
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@Misterhighwasted
I don't know who these Green New Deal people are that you're talking about.

But "Can't have it both ways" is a mantra I keep hearing from colonizers promoting a new manifest destiny.

Misterhighwasted,
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@Toastie

i have no idea who the " colonizers" are nor why the word is suddenly the go-to social media accusation word of the day.

Back to the topic.
You don't know who 'those people' are?

The cause promoted & brought to light is spot on & just.

The issue is that lithium mined to make the batteries that run devices & cars for a cleaner greener planet runs smack into the dirty mining business, same as the dirty oil business.

What's the solution so we stop repeating the same mistakes.

Toastie,
@Toastie@journa.host avatar

@Misterhighwasted

Well

Since you're asking

the solution is probably . And that's why people keep talking about colonization. 🤷‍♀️

1dalm,
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@Toastie

Once again. The choice is between "not perfect in every way" and "total F***ING disaster", and people insist on threatening to withhold their vote from "not perfect in every way".

I don't understand those people at all.

Toastie,
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@1dalm "Those people" eh?? Sounds like sacrifice-zone colonizer talk to me.

hovers hand over the block button

ZillaMon,
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@Toastie @1dalm exactly. "THOSE PEOPLE" that is how these settler colonialists think.

Toastie,
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@ZillaMon @1dalm Maybe they just think "THOSE PEOPLE" should roll over and stop resisting.

Somebody has to pay the price for white people's eco crimes. And it sure as hell isn't gonna be white people!

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