nyrath,
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US Space Force creates 1st unit dedicated to targeting adversary satellites

https://www.space.com/space-force-1st-targeting-squadron

UtilityNerd,

@nyrath Always a joy when our worst decide to break international law.

cjshearwood,
@cjshearwood@peoplemaking.games avatar

@nyrath I spend ages trying to figure out tasteful iconography for fictional space militaries and the space force just goes and puts that on their patch.

I need to lie down.

nyrath,
@nyrath@spacey.space avatar

@cjshearwood

I hear that a lot from science fiction authors. It is depressingly difficult to invent some outlandish ridiculous future device or social trend which DOESN'T become reality before your book is published.

eldadoinquieto,
@eldadoinquieto@mastorol.es avatar

@nyrath

Oh... 🤔 🛰️ One step more to ?

nyrath,
@nyrath@spacey.space avatar

@eldadoinquieto

I'm afraid so...

darrelplant,

@eldadoinquieto @nyrath

Seriously, a grim reaper? They don’t think the Space Force brand is cartoonish enough already they want to get Skeletor jokes in the mix?

darrelplant,
rm4,
darrelplant,

@rm4 @eldadoinquieto @nyrath

Still trying to figure out what the weird spiked chevron pattern on the oval background is supposed to signify.

rm4,

@darrelplant @eldadoinquieto @nyrath Maybe its some weird spiky UFO/satellite thing heh heh 🤷‍♂️. That's what they are protecting us against!

nyrath,
@nyrath@spacey.space avatar

@darrelplant @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

Off hand I'd say it was stylized scale mail.

I want to know what the Penrose triangle symbolizes

darrelplant,

@nyrath @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

You're the real artist here, but it seems lilke all kinds of hot design mess to me. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a prelim version with a Punisher logo instead of the reaper.

nyrath,
@nyrath@spacey.space avatar

@darrelplant @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

Oh, I 100% agree with you that it is all kinds of hot design mess.

darrelplant,

@nyrath @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

Gonna take a wild guess here and say that the triangle symbolizes how gullible someone was to accept this logo as a design for a government agency.

nyrath,
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darrelplant,

@nyrath @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

Should have mentioned that interpretation was inspired by this:


What does the Penrose triangle symbolize?

The Penrose Triangle has become a symbol of the power of perception and the limits of human understanding, inspiring artists and mathematicians alike. Penrose attended a lecture in 1954 by Escher and felt motivated to illustrate that concept.

darrelplant,

@nyrath @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

And the pattern looks like scales or something , but when you zoom into the image WTF are the spikes?

Pretty sure that these elements and the red/black type on dark blue would fail most contrast/color blindness guidelines.

darrelplant,

@nyrath @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

Crossover event

nyrath,
@nyrath@spacey.space avatar

@darrelplant @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

Right: Micheal Welan’s cover art for Brother Assassin by Fred Saberhagen

image/png

darrelplant,

@eldadoinquieto @rm4 @nyrath

The official explanation of the design is unenlightening.

…the red triangle signifies targeting which is the mission of the 75th ISRS, the reaper inside the triangle signifies the demise of any adversary the squadron would target, … and the scale armor background exemplifies the squadron’s strength and flexibility in the protection and defense of the space domain.

https://www.vandenberg.spaceforce.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2003282370/

nyrath,
@nyrath@spacey.space avatar

@darrelplant @rm4 @eldadoinquieto

Nice symbolism, but I wonder how the designer thought this related to destroying hostile satellites

sudnadja,

@nyrath @eldadoinquieto It doesn't necessarily have to be a kinetic removal of the enemy satellite, it could be burning out sensors on the satellite or rendezvous and inspection or something like that.

eldadoinquieto,
@eldadoinquieto@mastorol.es avatar

@sudnadja @nyrath

Who knows, but I tend to believe that it would be the worst option 🙄

sudnadja,

@eldadoinquieto @nyrath I think it is going to be similar to the Russian Kosmos 2558-like missions vs USA 326. On-orbit inspection and possible rendezvous.

nyrath,
@nyrath@spacey.space avatar

@sudnadja @eldadoinquieto

Ah, a blast from the past

sudnadja,

@nyrath @eldadoinquieto and present! Russia has been doing the on-orbit inspection thing (probably) for a few years now. Un-crewed, but the same idea. (my plot of one of the close-approaches between 2558 and 326 - same RAAN and inclination, with 2558 below 326)

video/mp4

eldadoinquieto,
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sudnadja,

@eldadoinquieto @nyrath yes, it was high drama in the satellite watching community for a while, an American satellite seems to perform a number of orbit changes designed to avoid a Russian inspector satellite. High speed chase, in space

tarheel,
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@sudnadja @eldadoinquieto @nyrath

Robot space battles.

Now in orbit; eventually in deeper space as we fight over asteroid-mining hauls.

eldadoinquieto,
@eldadoinquieto@mastorol.es avatar

@tarheel @sudnadja @nyrath

Who knows, perhaps it will be a battle for 16 Psyche:

https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/mining.php#psyche

sudnadja,

@eldadoinquieto @tarheel @nyrath only if the outer space treaty changes. Neither the US not Russia is permitted to claim celestial objects.

tarheel,
@tarheel@mstdn.io avatar

@sudnadja

At this point, it's US and China. And maybe whoever the richest three people on Earth are.

And, yeah, we've seen treaties broken recently.

@eldadoinquieto @nyrath

sudnadja,

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tarheel,
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@sudnadja

One of those three is going to the moon.

It occurs to me that this sort of robotics programming might be more rewarding than self-driving cars.

@eldadoinquieto @nyrath

aprilfollies,
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@nyrath Sigh. I was pretty sure that this was what splitting off the “space force” was intended for all along.

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