ai6yr,

What does it mean when most of the plants featured at Epcot's "The Land" are in my backyard? (most being grown in hydroponics) 🤔

(I don't think I can get a floating water ride back there, though).

vxo,
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@ai6yr are you sure? I mean really all you'd need is to construct a long pool with a couple of circulation pumps pushing the water through it so it can propel a raft around :D

ai6yr,

"How will we meet tomorrow's growing needs for food production, yet still respect the needs of The Land?"

ai6yr,

(Looking left out the boat) "Ti" (edible)

ai6yr,

(Looking right out of the boat) "Dragonfruit"

vxo,
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@ai6yr oh THAT'S what the dragonfruit stalks look like? Dang, now I want to grow it! :D

ai6yr,

@vxo It grows great in Southern California, but requires some shading to produce well. It actually does a lot better in more tropical conditions (it looks to have evolved as an understory plant that climbs trees...)

ai6yr,

(Look up ahead) "Pineapple"

ai6yr,

(Behind pineapples) "Taro"

ai6yr,

"Welcome to our living laboratory, where scientists from Epcot and the US Department of Agriculture are exploring innovative ways to produce bountiful harvests" (at this point, I'm thinking -- huh, this is like a tour of my backyard)

ai6yr,

(Farther left) "coffee"

andybrwn,
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@ai6yr You have coffee growing?

ai6yr,

@andybrwn Yep! It does great in the shade here in my part of SoCal.

ai6yr,

Here's where the soundtrack says: "WELCOME TO THE FUTURE"

(apparently, my yard is "The Future" 😂 ) #gardening #epcot

melanie,
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@ai6yr Your yard has coffee bushes?

ai6yr,

@melanie Yep! Grows best in shade in Southern California. The best source at the moment is to buy the coffee houseplants that tend to be available at Ikea -- make sure to buy one plant and split them up, they are bundled in a mass of about 10 seedlings in a coffee cup. At least at Ikea Burbank. It's a PITA to process then, but cool to be able to grow them. 100% shade on the east side of my house.

melanie,
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@ai6yr It sounds like I should get one, and keep it indoors (since the climate here is so cold pretty much only annuals from that region could ever grow, and that’s if they’re particularly ephemeral)

ai6yr,

@melanie They work great a houseplants (don't know if you will get fruit... the one that started bearing here is 15 years old and about 4 feet tall).

ai6yr,

"When we mention farming, you don't think of fish. Fish farming, or aquaculture, accounts for half of seafood produced globally" #aquaculture #epcot #mybackyard

zachnfine,
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@ai6yr Whoa, did you actually farm the tilapia (prior residents of the bucket)? Do the fish produce enough waste for all the plants you’ve highlighted or is aquaponics a subset of the garden?

ai6yr,

@zachnfine Yes... not without challenges. They grow very well (1:1 food conversion ratio), however, found several problems:

  1. Never harvested and ate the tilapia, because the kids considered them pets 😂
  2. The ambient temperature of Southern California in winter is TOO COLD for Tilapia without additional heating and TOO HOT for Tilapia in summer. (they like 75 to 86F water). That means you really need an indoor system with heating... outdoor is too extreme. And the spouse would not accept a large Tilapia tank in the living room. Your other option would be a greenhouse with both heating and cooling control.

On the plus side: you just have to feed them whatever vegetative matter you have.

zachnfine,
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@ai6yr I’m in the middle of resetting my hydroponic towers (it’s late I know). On the hottest days of summer I end up dropping bottles of frozen water into their tanks to try and keep them from boiling my plants. I wonder if that would work with fish — it would be interesting to see if they would choose to hover close to the bottles to regulate their own temperature. I did look into aquarium chillers but haven’t gone that route.

ai6yr,

@zachnfine I switched to painting my containers grey/white/beige to prevent boiling of plants here, and also tried shade cloth and misting last year with some good success. That one 55 gallon buck is white because it was boiling fish 😬

zachnfine,
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@ai6yr I wrap my tanks in Mylar to reflect the sun away. It’s not enough when the air itself is over 100°F but it helps.

zachnfine,
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@ai6yr I also like that the Mylar feels properly NASA-ish. Making my own Silent Running garden over here.

ai6yr,

@zachnfine LOL Mylar works, but make sure you don't let it degrade too much, or you end up with mylar bits all over the yard (ask me how I know, LOL)

ai6yr, (edited )

Other plants in the yard also at Epcot:

  1. Carolina Reaper Peppers
  2. citrus
  3. Passion fruit
  4. hydroponic tomatoes
  5. hydroponic eggplant
  6. Prickly pear

Missing but which I have grown

  1. Bananas (lost my banana in February; too cold in the roots)
  2. Hydroponic cucumbers (didn't pick one up at the nursery this year, yet).
  3. Hydroponic lettuce (too hot now for reliable lettuce production here).
  4. Papaya (does not survive winters).

Missing, have grown:

  1. Hydroponic long Chinese melon (this would grow, just haven't done it)
  2. Vanilla (orchid; have not yet mastered orchids)
  3. Cacao (not the right climate... yet.)
  4. Jakfruit (not the right climate... yet.)

#epcot #garden #gardening

j,
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@ai6yr How long have you been growing the piña? I keep wanting to grow one, and also having a moment of “the best time to grow it was yesterday”

ai6yr,

@j I have had pineapples in my yard for SO long. Just buy a pineapple and start it. It takes about 3 years to get fruit. (hardly worth it vs. the price of the fruit, but fun). Do the "put the tops in water" to start them and then plant them in successfully larger pots outside in potting soil, south or west side of your house with lots of warmth. (they like hot -- they grow them on SCORCHING black rock, lava rock, in Hawaii). I've never managed to get them to survive in the ground because the soil gets too cold here in winter.

ai6yr,

@j There is a saying "The best time to plant a tree was yesterday, The second best time to plant a tree is today."

ai6yr,

"What, you'd never had a Tilapia aquaculture system in your backyard yet? What future world do YOU live in?" #aquaculture

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