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That cranky tech nerd you watched that one time...

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A quick smartphone comparison! https://somegadgetguy.com/b/465
Pixel 8a vs OnePlus 12R! These might be the best two mid-ranger phones in the USA right now!

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Want to know what it's like to work at EFF? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/05/one-busy-day-life-effs-activism-team

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@eff Done.

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It just clicked in my brain. What I haven't been able to articulate about why I'm so anxious about Recall. I'm sure others have already gotten to where I am.

It's worse than "a system that tracks everything you do" and stores that info in a basic database that could be easily compromised.
It's worse than a nanny surveillance tool for companies to spy on their employees.

It's inescapable.

It doesn't matter if I make a dozen "how to disable recall" tutorials. The second YOUR data shows up on someone ELSE'S screen, it's in THEIR recall database.

It won't matter if you're a master expert specialist. You can't account for EVERY other computer you've ever interacted with. If a family member looks up an old email with your personal data in it, your data is now at risk.

If THEIR system is compromised YOUR data is at risk.

I just went from "vague feeling of unease" to "actively writing templates to canvas elected officials, regulators, and attorneys general."

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@chessert
Cool.
I love Linux.
Can you guarantee none of your data or communications will ever show up on a recall enabled PC?
What about old emails you've sent to family? Friends? Anything searched for and on screen will be in THEIR recall db.
Can you guarantee that NONE of those systems will ever be compromised?

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@gunstick @droidboy

That's what I want to see. Before you can interact with Recall you HAVE to plug in a security key. We just know MS won't do anything like that, because it'll then look scary (which it should), and they want it to be "frictionless".

The idea of it being more secure, Microsoft is doing bad infomercial acting about how inconvenient and complicated security is.

Paul rudd from wet hot american summer over acting how difficult it is to pick up after himself.

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@gunstick @droidboy
Security through obscurity!

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@halfbloodprice it just works!
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@HerveRenault "oh phew, your windows PC is too old to have an NPU..."

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@TCMuffin well shoot.

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@KarlE
Exactly! We can only be secure to the level of our weakest link.

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@TCMuffin
Nope. Not yet. 24H2 is out, but Recall hasn't been added yet.

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@woltiv I've been paranoid about that one for a bit too, and yeah, Recall just ratchets that paranoia.

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@synlogic @droidboy
If I were a betting man, I would place the first exploit discovered in under two hours.
Anyone got the Vegas odds on that?

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@juliewebgirl @elfin @diazona
But why go for just a social media account or your email? Why not just get THE WHOLE PC right?
😠

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@halfbloodprice Yup. Very succinctly put.

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@CaptainJanegay @signalapp
There's already MS support pages on how to prevent recall from sucking up data on SPECIFIC websites, and it honestly sounds like a massive PITA.
Almost by design to make it singularly and manually annoying enough that we know folks won't take a lot of time opting out of specific services.

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@juliewebgirl @elfin @diazona

Yours and EVERYONE else's.

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@AskPippa a little more complicated than that, but I'm sure there will be ways to "dump" that info.
It screenshots, scans the shot, and then drops that info into a database in your app data folder. Not super secure, but most folks wont know where it is.

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@juliewebgirl @elfin @diazona

Yup. Agreeing with you. I'm just trying to keep that idea in every reply I get.

There's a certain human selfishness I think needs to be tapped.

People casually considering this won't really care about THEIR actions inconveniencing others, but OTHER people inconveniencing them is a bridge too far.

I dont want that idea lost in any part of this conversation.

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@juliewebgirl @elfin @diazona

I felt we were on the same page, just had to explain why I was being so pedantic on that one specific point 😊

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@BillySmith @foolishowl @mountdiscovery
SO glad to hear that! Hoping more corps and government agencies follow suit.

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@BillySmith @foolishowl @mountdiscovery
We can only hope that this impacts a glut of middle managers...

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@marinheiro
Yup.
But instead of walking back that data access, we're expanding it beyond the scope of email, to the OS level, and where every byte of data that shows up on screen is stored.

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@MisuseCase @foolishowl @mountdiscovery
It really feels like a panic response to investor trends in AI. Something they're pushing to make their stock price nudge up, and to fight the recent Apple/Meta/Google AI initiatives, rather than an actual practical, well honed consumer facing product.
It's not yet a part of 24H2, so I feel they're announcing now and they'll be "fixing it" before it delivers at scale.

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@kDelta Only around 70% of the desktop/laptop market 🤷

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@kDelta
Oh it TOTALLY happens. I know that feel when you're not faced with something on the regular. It's nice when it's "out of sight, out of mind".

It's like the opposite of buying a new car, and then seeing it everywhere you go. 😄

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