davew,
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I like the term "enshitification" -- to me it describes where we've been for about 17 years. are we emerging from it? are we entering the age of deshitification?

to me it means no longer typing into tiny little shitboxes for writing. this is no way to treat a human being.

wootube,

@davew This is Essex Bridge, built by The Earl of Essex to impress Queen Elizabeth I. I have never seen the river so enshitified before.

davew,
@davew@mastodon.social avatar

@wootube

you are shitposting again

wootube,

@davew The government started it! They privatised the Royal Mail too :-/

rmdes,
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@davew precisely why anyone should be able to write from their blog/site to wherever people will read them

Or at the minimum use https://elk.zone for a decent desktop experience, #mastodon is just the engine, we have the UI's to avoid this box now.

wurzbacher,

@rmdes @davew Elk is solid and dead easy to use.

OTOH, basically every user and admin is a vol who chooses to be here, so downside to separating front and back end apps is an increased attack surface (arguably), more code to write and debug, etc.

As admins, it means 2x the big reports and vuln docs to look at, manage, discuss, mitigate, etc which I think scares off some folks who might run instances, too.

rmdes,
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@wurzbacher I get your point but I think it's fair to say the decentralization of the different coding project and their current healthy maintenance coupled with things like @cloudron or @yunohost or even managed hosting of fedi apps makes the whole thing much easier to handle. Add to that #crowdsec and it's doable? 😅

wurzbacher,

@yunohost @rmdes @cloudron doable, sure - but no reason to expose unnecessary risks either.

None of those things helped with the recent Lemmy issue, for example.

Very easy to do that inadvertently, esp once we start breaking things down into those component parts - especially for the folks running instances who aren’t as confident in some of this.

proximacentauri,
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