Loukas,
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It's ironic and depressing how all the other Swedish parties have policy points or slogans on their EU parliament posters, while the Social Democrats just say, "yeah...vote for us because of... vibes".

Loukas,
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To quote @guldfiske Sweden's Social Democrats are "the party without qualities" that exists just to exist, be big, and always be in government. From that perspective their empty slogan is a perfect example of what the party aspires to be. Something that gets elected just by saying..."hey."

PaulGrahamRaven,
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@Loukas @guldfiske They might find the vibes things worked a little better for them if they didn't all dress like the sort of person in late middle-age who's been stuck in the lower tiers of middle management at a major accounting consultancy for the last fifteen years.

Loukas,
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@PaulGrahamRaven @guldfiske just like Starmer, I suspect they think, we're winning, so why should we change it?

PaulGrahamRaven,
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@Loukas @guldfiske Yeah, very similar vibes. Perhaps due to the omnipresent influence of Sun Tzu on politics in the West: the old saw about "never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" is here somehow translated into "blend into the wallpaper, and maybe you'll be the last ones left standing"

Loukas,
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@PaulGrahamRaven @guldfiske I'd say it's a deeper tendency: The need of social democratic parties to avoid politics, because of their constant suppression of their own grassroots and left wings.

PaulGrahamRaven,
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@Loukas @guldfiske Pasokification is one hell of a drug etc etc

Loukas,
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@PaulGrahamRaven well it's not pasokifikation when you're polling ten points or more ahead of your conservative rivals.

PaulGrahamRaven,
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@Loukas Fair point! But that rhetorical weakness, the whole "don't scare the horses" thing, is plausibly a legacy of the long drift toward the managerial center.

Loukas,
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@PaulGrahamRaven I'd say it's a flanderisation of the inherent dynamic of social democracy, so yes and :)

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