we need to clearly reorient fedi moderation around preventing abuse, but not limit access to bad info/opinions. if we want to grow. as an analogy, the email part of fedi, not the browsing. tagging people with shit and poisoning hashtags, not unpopular or even mean thoughts when published only to the ether or in conversations with friends. like an email server helping us deal with spam, without blocking people from visiting any site on the open web.
@wjmaggos@Gargron I am thinking more about this and it is pretty problematic considering it is touted as a journalist server. When applying I had to prove I had worked in the media. How will more journalists come to the #fediverse this way? Two prominent Canadian journalists actively working in the field are on this server.
@LALegault@wjmaggos@Gargron I feel like this is always going to be a problem until media orgs run their own servers. "Works in the media" just isn't stringent enough. So does Bret Stephens and Tucker Carlson; I'd absolutely block a server that saw fit to spread their misinformation. But if Fox has their own mastodons server and LA Times has their own that makes it easier to block one and allow the other.
yes to their own servers but do they come here if they think most people will block them, or even block other servers cause they are not blocking them. I get that complaint on my server, that they are blocking me cause I federate with bad servers. ugh.
but I fundamentally disagree. federating with a server is just like saying it's ok for people to browse that site. people can always copy and paste. harassment is the problem, not reading/sharing.
@LALegault@wjmaggos@Gargron That wasn't my implication, just this is going to be subjective and messy. People have very different levels of tolerance, and that includes moderators/admins.
Edit: also, blocking hate speech against your person is not creating an echo chamber. Again, not saying your server is doing this, just that a server that hosted Carlson absolutely would.
but maybe it doesn't need to be. maybe there's a better way to think about this. maybe a decentralized social network with the whole world using it is something that requires reworking past assumptions. that it's like other things we've known but the combination is neither duck nor otter.
I don't know that mastodon dot social uses any of those lists, but they are constantly brought up. we've discussed moderation ala gentrification before. I posted a lot on the #fediblockmeta hashtag yesterday.
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