realn2s, (edited )

From time to time i stumble onto this slide (allegedly) From a 1979 IBM presentation.

Does anyone have a plausible source for it?
I tried finding one but failed

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#IBMSlide

dahukanna,
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@realn2s @Andylongshaw

I have a “brainworm” saying this maybe related to “mythical man month” by Fred Brooks circa 1979.

realn2s,

@dahukanna @Andylongshaw
That is an interesting point.
Conceptually it would be a good fit
I can't remember it so.
This means i need to reread it 😀

realn2s,

@hex looked into the shine-through text on the #BirdSite

"THE COMPUTER MANDATE

Authority: Whatever authority is granted to it in to social environment within which it operates

Responsibility: To perform as pre-directed by the programmer whenever instructed to do so

Accountability: …

A mandate with too little authority does not provide the tools required to take advantage of the leverage

A mandate with too little responsibility provides too little leverage for the [ta?]sk

A mandate with… [is] a form of suicide".

https://web.archive.org/web/20210423233729/https://twitter.com/hex/status/1385739459325530113

realn2s, (edited )

There is an article/interview by John Cohn in the November 2013 edition of the IBM Inspire Beyond Today’s Technology magazine. This is the closest "source" I could find:

"A computer can prepare everything or make suggestions, but not play an autonomous role. In other words, we want the computer as an advisor, not as a decision-maker.”

https://www.ibm.com/blogs/think/be-en/2013/11/25/the-computer-as-an-advisor-not-a-decision-maker-the-vision-of-ibm-fellow-john-cohn/

gerritbeine,
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@realn2s
A source for the IBM presentation or a source for what is written on the slide?

realn2s, (edited )

@gerritbeine
Both would do 😀

gerritbeine,
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@realn2s
For the latter I would use sociological models as a plausible source.
The part of accountability can be explained with Max Weber’s ‘purposive rationality’ and Niklas Luhmann’s views on trust and power.
In short: as a computer has no intentions, therefore it cannot make decisions.

jojo_en_riant,
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@gerritbeine @realn2s that reminds me that i still want to See your agile meets architecture talk.

realn2s,

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☝🏻
I second that 😀

realn2s,

@gerritbeine
Thanks for the pointers (not sure if i start reading Luhmann so 😉)

I don't doubt the "truth" of the content 😀

itsjoshbruce,
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@realn2s @gdinwiddie:

https://cohost.org/Hapaxlegoman/post/2817428-a-computer-can-neve

Everything I’m finding points to the same conclusion as the link posted - Twitter.

If this non-cropped variant is the “original” - I’d say it’s doctored. But that’s not my profession, just the photography major in me.

In theory, we’re looking for something called “The Computer Mandate,” if the page bleed through is to be believed.

itsjoshbruce, (edited )
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@realn2s @gdinwiddie: ps. An “easy” place to start down the “Is it doctored?” path. Would be to figure out what font family that is.

If it’s not a font available before 1980, leans more toward the doctored notion. I might try finding out tomorrow.

realn2s,

@itsjoshbruce @gdinwiddie
😀 I thought of that. Sadly I'm really bad at recognising font families 😜

Do you know of a resource for that?

What makes me suspicious (at least about the year) is the crispy clear font, especially on an overhead slide
(for younger people, this were sheets of transparent plastic with an additional thin sheet of paper attached so that you could read what was on the side without a projector)

The first commercially available laser printer was released by IBM in 1976 with a resolution on 240dpi. Followed in 1977 by a model from Xerox and 1979 by one by Canon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_printing

Which makes me doubt that a laser printer was available for printing slides in 1979.
And even less that there were laser printer compatible overhead slides.
Even in the 1990 you got a nice crumpled piece of plastic using standard overhead slides in a laser printer

realn2s,

@itsjoshbruce @gdinwiddie

I tried to identify the font with the help of https://www.myfonts.com/pages/whatthefont

It identifies the font as Nimbus Sans which was created in 1999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimbus_Sans

The Nimbus Sans itself is based on Helvetica (1957)

Directly comparing the fonts
http://www.identifont.com/differences?first=Nimbus+Sans&second=Helvetica
I think Helvetica is an even better match (especially comparing the 'O')

SpaceLifeForm,

@realn2s

Legit.

realn2s,

@SpaceLifeForm
Is this a question, a suggestion, or a declaration?

SpaceLifeForm,

@realn2s

An excellent question. Ask ChatGPT.

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