cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/27/24016791/astrohaus-freewrite-alpha-digital-typewriter-e-ink

I have no idea how such a shitty product can exist. Same price buys you a Chromebook; there are plenty of software libre distraction-free writing apps out there (try opening a terminal and typing "vim"?).

Or you could chicken out and buy a Kindle Fire Max 11 with keyboard case for the same price.

Both of these let you type for more than a day on a charge: the only benefit of the freewrite alpha is an 80 hour battery, which is pointless with USB-C charging everywhere.

adamrice,
@adamrice@c.im avatar

@cstross Courtesy of @clive , I learn of the Zerowriter: https://hackaday.io/project/193902-zerowriter

clive,
@clive@saturation.social avatar

@cstross @adamrice

It looks like so much fun, eh? I really think I’m gonna build one this year

kkarhan,

@cstross some even recommended this shit to me instead if a when I was in school.
I told them unless it comes with the same voice as has I don't want them to ever be allowed to make any technical decision or suggestion in their life!
Those things are like : an absolute given even the shittiest with the abundant running is more versatile.
And I literally just started that distro.

PJ_Evans,
@PJ_Evans@mastodon.social avatar

@kkarhan @cstross
Calculators aare smaller and easier to carry around. (I use a Casio fx-260: no batteries!)

kkarhan,

@PJ_Evans @cstross depends on the calculator...

Espechally in the age of smartphones where we have graphical calculators like Arity that can plit 3D graphs on one's phone!

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.woheller69.arity/

PJ_Evans,
@PJ_Evans@mastodon.social avatar

@kkarhan @cstross
I had one, way back. Not as useful as all that. Most of the time, I'm doing arithmetic.

kkarhan,

@PJ_Evans @cstross Again: I don't doubt the usefulness of it and I've seen people with "calculator rulers" beat typists in regards to their speed...

ottaross,
@ottaross@mastodon.social avatar

@cstross wow - was shocked seeing the product portfolio and the prices. At $60 it might be fair value.

Could surely make one from scratch with an #Arduino all-in for $40.

trollball,

@cstross At least expensive fountain pens are pretty to look at. (Speaking of ways to separate writers from their money.)

A bit of context.

In University, I discovered fountain pens, and briefly fell in love with them.

My mom, born 1935, had no romanticism wrt pens. She had grown up with inkwells in school. To her, cheap ballpoints were like penicillin. Why would any fool want to go back to status quo ante?

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@trollball I had to use a fountain pen at school. (Yes, I am that old.) I have no love for them either.

trollball,

@cstross I do wonder how the product marketing went, inside this company.

Is it intentionally a grift for hipsters? Or are the employees true believers? This is an anthropology question, I suppose.

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@trollball I believe it started with the Hemingwrite, which was a labour of love by enthusiasts ... in 2014. Renamed Freewrite, then turned into a licensing/marketing grift, discovered that Alphasmart were out of business and decided to extend tentacles into that market (but not the cheapo education models designed for kids to beat up) ...

Lots of other hipster crap here:

https://www.thrillist.com/tech/nation/tech-accessories-and-apps-for-hipsters

/1

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@trollball

/2 I am PARTICULARLY amused by the last item on that list, The Field Desk, yours for only $1850! ... because it's a poor quality knock-off of a Victorian escritoire (writing box), with a shoulder strap and handle. I own a really nice escritoire, probably 1880 vintage: mahogany and brass, not cherry wood and brass, but I paid £100 for it.

trollball,

@cstross I would gladly pay 100-200 £ for a portable writing desk. And since Victorians actually used such items, I assume it would have the bugs worked out of the design, if you will.

Also, that you own one.

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@trollball They're all over ebay in the UK. Your search terms are escritoire and "writing slope". Be warned, quality varies! The best end up in antique shops.

Oggie,
@Oggie@woof.group avatar

@cstross Man, and I felt self indulgent for buying a cheap laptop for $100 for the express purpose of 'just writing '. It's a long battery life glorified keyboard with a screen and just grimly does it's job.

This seems...very silly.

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@Oggie It's a Hipster fetish item, not a useful computing appliance.

feorag,
@feorag@wandering.shop avatar

@cstross It reminds me a bit of the Z88 that got me through university, though. But that was a long time ago.

redfish,

@cstross
Seems like a generally worse version of King Jim Pomera devices at approximately the same price point

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@redfish Yeah, I really wish the Pomera had caught on outside Japan.

adamrice,
@adamrice@c.im avatar

@cstross The impulse toward these monotasker word processors seems like an allomorph of the impulse toward old typewriters, which is also A Thing among the Youth of Today.

It does seem these guys are leaving room for a competitor to undercut them, if there’s that much of a market. Seems like you could sell a device with a really nice keyboard, 4x80 display, and Arduino for ~USD100.

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@adamrice Nah, you need to clone the Cambridge Z88 (Sir Clive Sinclair's last computer venture, circa 1988) only using Raspberry Pi hardware (because British) and make it thinner and lighter (the thing was amazingly small by 1988 standards; today it's thicker and heavier than a 13" Macbook Air, and doesn't run for as long off 4 AA cells).

geoglyphentropy,

@cstross @adamrice I was surprised the Z88 didn't have a bigger impact - did it arrive too late, were there issues in production or was it underpowered compared to competition?

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@geoglyphentropy @adamrice It suffered shipping delays (I think it was about 6-9 months late?) and there was no follow-through. However, anecdotally, it pointed John Sculley at what was to become the Newton when he attended a management meeting at Apple and realized nearly everyone at the table was taking notes on a Z88—the use case for a PDA was so blindingly obvious he decided to go for it. So ... great-great-great-to-the-nth-ancestor of Android and iOS, maybe?

zrail,
@zrail@hachyderm.io avatar

@cstross is this for the person who really wants to drag an IBM Selectric to the park but can't fit it in their Tom Bihn messenger bag?

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@zrail Yup: toys for terminal hipsters.

(I know some novelists—maybe 10%?—who like a "distraction free environment" but I'm part of the opposite 10%.)

ovid,
@ovid@fosstodon.org avatar

@cstross

The hell? "Word processors" were a thing back in the 1960s, dedicated single-use computers that everyone dropped in the 80s because, you know, "single use."

This looks like some weird nostalgia trip.

Next up, someone's going to offer an IoT Pet Rock™ you can't lose.

For those not famliar with the background: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_processor_(electronic_device)

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@ovid Oh boy, you really need to google for the Freewrite and it's predecessors. Started as an attempt to build a manual typewriter work-alike, only with cloud storage. Turns out there's a cult following for this sort of idiocy.

(There was a thing in the 90s in Japan for portable word processors with fold-up keyboards you could slip in a suit pocket and power off a pair of AA cells for a day or two, but they never caught on outside and touchscreens were better for kanji/katakana.)

resuna,
@resuna@ohai.social avatar

@cstross @ovid

I just discovered that there's a USB adapter for a manual typewriter to read the pistons and levers and plug in to your computer as an utterly insane mechanical keyboard.

They have dozens of variations for different makes and models of 1930s Underwoods and things.

ovid,
@ovid@fosstodon.org avatar

@cstross

A manual typewriter with cloud storage? Given that I learned to type in the 80s on a manual, I now feel the pull! This sounds like a hugely fun hobby project, but as a consumer gadget, uh, no.

But still, the description makes my socks roll up and down! (Off to search for Freewrite)

stevewfolds,
@stevewfolds@mastodon.world avatar

@ovid @cstross Adapted to slim keyboards. Still have 2 old Apple curved IBM Seletric style long stroke ones used for typesetting.

resuna,
@resuna@ohai.social avatar

@stevewfolds @ovid @cstross

Bah, the last decent keyboard Apple made was the Extended II.

squishymage42,
@squishymage42@dice.camp avatar

@cstross I have the device whose nostalgia they're trying to cash in on. LCD screen, runs for literal years on 3 AAA batteries, and emulates a USB keyboard for transfer to computer.

I really don't see the benefits to the upgrade.

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@squishymage42 Alphasmart, right?

resuna,
@resuna@ohai.social avatar

@cstross @squishymage42

^-- This.

I was about to say that this looks shittier than an Alphasmart Dana.

sdarlington,
@sdarlington@mas.to avatar

@cstross It looks like a Cambridge Z88! Which was pretty innovative in 1988…

cstross,
@cstross@wandering.shop avatar

@sdarlington

Yes, but it isn't a Cambridge Z88.

(I will THROW MONEY at someone who does for the Cambridge Z88 what the Spectrum Next crew did for the Speccy. Make it thinner, e-ink display if possible, CPU should be a Raspberry Pi Zero W2 or better, port Pipedream to it but run Linux under the hood, etc. Oh, and keep the membrane keyboard but aim to match the positive key feel of the (waterproof) Z88 one. Yes?)

This thing is a stupid keyboard with a memory buffer. The end.

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