Republicans already have full transcripts of the conversations and now want the audio so they can pull out of context for political purposes. But, they now can’t have them. Moving on…
No. They just know that Republicans and their cable news sycophants will do the exact thing they did with the Hur report.
Ignore the overall findings, find one sentence in it that spins it negative, soundbite the fuck out of it, and repeat it ad nauseum.
And yes, this is the same thing Trump did. And Obama. And Bush. This has been a standard move for decades. It’s just news now because of the regressive morons in congress and their orange dictator-in-waiting.
The only reason to hide the tapes, is they make Biden look bad. If he had his shit together, they’d be trying to release them to show people the report was biased.
Candidate:
This would exonate me!
Everyone else:
Can we see/hear it?
Candidate:
Objection! If people saw/heard this, it would make me look bad!
This is a bad thing regardless of the letter next to a candidates name.
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Ignore the overall findings
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That’s what you’re doing…
The overall findings was Biden knowingly committed crimes.
find one sentence in it that spins it n
That’s what you’re doing.
You latched on “charges not recommended” and are ignoring the rest of the sentence that says the only reason is because due to Biden’s age and confusion, it’s unlikely he’d be found guilty as people would be sympathetic.
But the transcripts show that the “due to age and confusion” was a mischaracterization by Hur. It’s like when Barr declared the Mueller report exonerated trump.
There are a lot of podcasts that break it down if you’re not interested in looking at the transcripts yourself.
If the I tervirw makes him look good like you claim, what's wrong with releasing it so people can hear the good bits?
Because anybody with even a basic awareness of how Republicans operate knows that people won't hear the good bits. The statements will be chopped up and released as distorted propaganda pieces.
They already have the transcript. There is nothing to be gained by giving them the audio. All it would do is allow them to further rile up their bases with disinformation.
Because anybody with even a basic awareness of how Republicans operate knows that people won’t hear the good bits.
Who cares?
We aren’t going to flip Republican voters, he’s not gaining any he doesn’t already have.
Elections are won and lost on dem turnout, and if the audio makes Biden seem capable, that makes the “old and confused” reason for not charging him bullshit.
And that might be enough for them to also write off the reasoning for not charging him, and maybe even the fact that the report found him guilty
They call Biden a fucking communist, no matter what happens, republicans will always tell their voters it’s the worst thing ever.
So who cares what they’re going to say?
If this gets more voters to the polls, it’s a win for Biden.
If we don’t care what republicans think then why do we care about meeting their demands to release the tape?
If elections are won and lost on dem turnout then why give republicans the opportunity to create misleading sound clips? Do you think more dems are likely to listen to the entire tape or just a few moments stitched together played on the radio?
It’s been explained over and over. Nobody will listen to 5 hours of recorded tapes. They will hear out of context snippets stitched together out of chronological order.
“The only reason to hide the tapes, is they make Biden look bad. If he had his shit together, they’d be trying to release them to show people the report was biased.”
But they already released the transcripts. They are just refusing to release the audio. There isn’t new information to be gained. Just an opportunity for Republicans to splice and dice the audio for partisan purposes.
I don’t think Biden having dementia and spewing nonsense is news to anyone. Yes it hurts him and will draw more attention in audio than in text, which is one of the reasons they aren’t releasing it.
“But be better than republicans. Hold your “team” to higher standards than just the letter by someone’s name.”
No. Fuck that. We tried that and ended up with a conservative majority on SCOTUS. Don’t do anything to give Republicans or Trump an advantage. I’m just as disappointed as anyone that Biden is the best candidate the Dems can produce, and that his campaign slogan is effectively “better than Trump”. But I don’t agree with making it easier for Republicans to hurt your campaign just for the sake of taking the moral high ground. Save that conversation for when your opponent isn’t a literal fascist. Make the Republicans work for it. If the transcript doesn’t titillate your Fox News braindead audience then too bad.
. Fuck that. We tried that and ended up with a conservative majority on SCOTUS
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Refusing to fight for Obama’s SC pick so that it could be used to get people to vote for a candidate disliked by most people from either party is not “having standards”.
It’s wild to hear someone even suggest that’s what happened…
Refusing to fight for Obama’s SC pick so that it could be used to get people to vote for a candidate disliked by most people from either party is not “having standards”.
If this is what you think happened in 2016 after Senate Republicans openly admit that they blocked Obama’s SC pick, then I hope nobody is listening to you because you’ve lost all credibility. They even said that they would do the same thing to a Republican president, but then they moved faster than I’ve ever seen Congress move to install a new Justice just a few weeks before the 2020 election. There’s video of Lindsey Graham telling people to use his words against him if they behaved differently with roles reversed, and he behaved differently, and then that interview video went viral right before the election. There’s no excuse for not knowing what happened, so I have to assume that you’re just arguing in bad faith, trying to sow division.
It’s written that the Senate may vote to confirm, not that they have to.
If republicans refused to hold the vote because they didn’t have the votes to stop it, Obama should have just sat his pick (not the bullshit “compromise”) to the SC.
Republicans would have challenged it, and it would have went to the SC.
Would it have been guaranteed to work? No, it wouldn’t.
But it would have been better than a year out from the election just fucking giving up.
Can you explain any downside to trying anything more than accepting it?
Source:
Scores of scholars — law professors, historians and political scientists — urged the Senate to at least have a process for Garland as a duly appointed nominee with impeccable qualifications. But some lawyers and academics pointed out that the Constitution empowered the Senate to “advise and consent” but did not require it do so. (Some adding that they thought the Senate still ought to do so.)
Rather than do it and fight the battle that they were able to do it, we ran out the clock talking about if we could.
That’s the main difference between the parties.
Republicans do shit then we try to undo what they managed to get thru.
Dems have the fight before doing anything, and keep running out of time.
The entire premise of moderate politics doesn’t work anymore. We spend all our time trying to undo what republicans do, but they do so much bullshit there’s not enough time for everything, let alone anything’s ng we want to do.
How do people not see that if you’ve been paying attention to politics since at least 2016?
Not “may”, the wording is “shall” and “with””. And while I would have rather they try to end run around the road block, shall and with have specific meaning in legal documents that is much less wishy-washy than “may”
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