Taylor Swift launches legal broadside at a college student who tracks private jets via public data

In late December, Swift’s camp hit Jack Sweeney, a junior studying information technology at the University of Central Florida, with a cease-and-desist letter that blamed his automated tracking of her private jet for tipping off stalkers as to her location. In the letter, attorneys from the law firm Venable accused Sweeney of effectively providing “individuals intent on harming her, or with nefarious or violent intentions, a roadmap to carry out their plans.”

Sweeney provided the link to that letter in an email to the Associated Press. In that message, he emphasized that while he has never intended to cause harm, he also believes strongly in the importance of transparency and public information.

“One should reasonably expect that their jet will be tracked, whether or not I’m the one doing it, as it is public information after all,” he wrote.

A spokesperson for Swift echoed the legal complaint, saying that “the timing of stalkers” suggests a connection to Sweeney’s flight-tracking sites. The spokesperson did not respond to questions seeking elaboration of that charge, such as whether stalkers have been seen waiting for Swift at the airport when her plane arrived or, alternatively, if there is evidence that stalkers have somehow inferred Swift’s subsequent location from the arrival time of her flight.

The legal letter likewise accuses Sweeney of “disregarding the personal safety of others”; “willful and repeated harassment of our client”; and “intentional, offensive, and outrageous conduct and consistent violations of our client’s privacy.”

Such statements are difficult to square with the fact that Sweeney’s automated tracking accounts merely repackage public data provided by the Federal Aviation Administration, a government agency. That fact did not dissuade the Venable attorneys, who demanded that Sweeney “immediately stop providing information about our client’s location to the public.”

TheDarksteel94,

Lol, I love that article. The author clearly also thinks that Taylor and her goons are full of shit on this one. Like, it’s public information provided by the FAA. Will they sue the FAA then?

raynethackery,

Maybe the FAA is unconstitutional.

doingless,

Probably all of the letter agencies cross that line.

raynethackery,

No, they don’t. They were created by acts of Congress to be run by the Executive branch.

cmoney, (edited )

Didn’t Elon try something similar and lost in court? In case anyone is interested silicon jets tracks billionaires jets.

Edit: I confused silicone and silicon.

XTornado,

Yeah… I mean at the end he got Twitter and I think he kick him out… that was an expensive way to handle it I guess…

I mean it probably is still tracked somewhere else and maybe there are other accounts doing it no idea.

zaph,

I mean it probably is still tracked somewhere else and maybe there are other accounts doing it no idea

The comment you replied to provided exactly that link…

XTornado, (edited )

Oh ok I thought that was somebody else unrelated to that guy.

Still not sure why all the downvotes I just added info that he was kicked out of Twitter… Ugh .

CosmoNova,

silicone jets

Minor spelling mistake, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find some in those jets.

hips_and_nips,

silicone

It’s silicon. Silicon is a naturally occurring chemical element, whereas silicone is a synthetic substance.

Silicon is for computer chips, silicone is for boobies.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

now I’m thinking about jet shaped boobies

bamboo,

Silicone is also really nice for cooking utensils!

Honytawk,

I guess she is the biggest monster of them all

AncientFutureNow,

I’m so tired about hearing about this fake ass bish. Y’all know she’s racist, right?

books,

I mean… I kinda get her rational, she’s got crazy stalkers… But all this really does is tell you what city she’s in.

Great, she’s in NYC… Which only has 9 million people in it.

CaptainHowdy,

I have a legitimate question: why is this public information? Like… I’m not taking sides either way, I just don’t understand the reason that the current location of someone’s private property (her jet) is considered public info. They location of someone’s car or boat isn’t publicly available… So why a plane?

I understand that flight controllers need access to this info for logistics, but that’s not really public. They also need access to air waves for communication and those are heavily regulated.

MeanEYE, (edited )
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

This system is called ADS-B. It’s a peer to peer communication between airplanes where each plane will share its own data (flight level, speed, coordinates, flight number, etc.) and data from other planes by broadcasting it on same frequency as others. Result of this is that all the planes know where other nearby planes are located and their heading thus providing additional safety in avoiding collisions and other issues.

Data being broadcast in all directions means us on the ground can listen to them as well, which is what some sites are doing. Add internet to that mixture and we have a world coverage of every plane on the planet. You might wonder why data is not encrypted or something similar. There’s nothing that can be abused about the data and all this tracking helps enormously with resolving incidents and other useful functionalities like precise arrival estimates and similar.

Now, since every airplane has a registration number, people figured out which plane was hers. Just like they know which plane Musk uses and many others. Data is recorded and known and completely legal, helpful even. If she has issues with this fact solution is rather simple. Get a charter flight or rent a plane and no one is the wiser. This is just rich people entitlement and the only way she can “win” this court case is to go a step further in stepping over the line which is to drown the poor man with legal expenses.

Edit: Oh, also location of boats is known. Not all boats, but commercial ones for sure. Their system is called AIS.

CaptainHowdy,

Thank you! This is exactly the kind of info I was wanting to see.

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

You are welcome. In order to receive this data one really doesn’t need a lot. Some USB SDR dongle around ~30$ and software which is readily available. It’s just like any other public service, free to listen to but license is needed to broadcast.

turmacar,

Part of the answer is “it’s always been that way”. All this is done in coordination with the FTC and there are certain frequencies assigned for aerial radio communication. It’s not just done on 2.4GHz to be cheap like Wi-Fi / microwaves / etc.

Since the long-long-ago planes have been required to have their registered tail number visible. So if you do something not okay someone can find you and talk to you about it. After all cars are (mostly) limited to roads, boats are limited to waterways (and also have to have a name/number visible somewhere), planes can go anywhere and be annoying.

Radio communication to/from planes is just ‘in the clear’. It’s not encrypted because there isn’t/wasn’t a reason for it to be and for a long time it wasn’t even possible. Encrypting it offers no benefit and many potential downsides. It’s one more thing that can go wrong when you have a problem and need to talk to someone.

When tracking was upgraded to transponders ( a small radio dedicated to sending out info about who you are ) all that just stayed the same. They transmit a code you set and your altitude (and other info including tail number for newer ones/requirements after 2020 (just a coincidental year, the upgrade was planned years in advance)) so Air Traffic Control can say “Bugsmasher 123 turn left please”. Radar is expensive, a device in the plane constantly broadcasting “plane here” is significantly simpler and cheaper to track. Most airports don’t have Primary Radar.

ATC doesn’t care about your tail number for tracking anything other that what to call you to get your attention on the radio. For your current flight, if you are using Flight Following (talking to ATC so they know where you are) or filing an Instrument Flight plan, they give you a semi-random transponder code for that flight. That is what they use for logistics. They don’t care who you are, they care where you’re going and when you’re going to get there.

Tracking a tail number isn’t much different from the <1900s version, which would be “weird the Mayflower is in port in Boston” or something.

Trainguyrom,

Radio communication to/from planes is just ‘in the clear’. It’s not encrypted because there isn’t/wasn’t a reason for it to be and for a long time it wasn’t even possible. Encrypting it offers no benefit and many potential downsides. It’s one more thing that can go wrong when you have a problem and need to talk to someone.

There’s tons of radio chatter one can listen to that’s just blasted into the air with zero enceyption that you can pick up with an inexpensive radio scanner or SDR. Tons of first responders haven’t updated to digital or encrypted radios (this will vary by state and municipality), railroad radio communication is often in the clear, as are boats and of course aircraft. There’s a public database of crowd sources frequencies here:

www.radioreference.com/db/browse/

turmacar,

That’s a cool reference, thanks for sharing!

CaptainHowdy,

Thank you for the detailed info! This is the kind of response I was hoping for

Honytawk,

Safety against air collisions.

MrFunnyMoustache,

Very stupid of her to bring attention to this, because I didn’t even know she had a private jet, now more people are aware of Sweeney’s website.

DrDickHandler,

It’s not fucking her. It’s her team. She probably isn’t even aware of it.

Mnemnosyne,

If someone works for you and does things in your name, you are responsible for those things and they can be fairly attributed to you.

BreakDecks,

She uses her private jets (plural) a lot. Like, hundreds of lifetimes of carbon emissions a lot. There’s more than one reason she doesn’t want people looking.

Everythingispenguins,

Shhh you are saying the quiet part out loud.

madcaesar,

I’d love for this to go to court, the judge to tell Swift to fuck off, pay the defendants legal fees and a massive fee for a frivolous lawsuit wasting the courts time 🤞

ManicZed,

Elon himself went after this same kid a year or two ago and lost. Doubt Taylor’s team will do any better.

riodoro1,

What a bitch.

I like all the money, attention and being treated like god, but please don’t invade my privacy.

Well you can’t have one without the other, I’m not going to hold my breath for you giving up your fame tho.

vala,

It’s not even an invasion of privacy. The flight info is public.

Reddfugee42,

IT’S AN INVASION OF PUBLICY!

Honytawk,

She can have privacy … if she used public planes instead of a private jet.

SpiceDealer, (edited )
@SpiceDealer@lemmy.world avatar

The stalker argument is absolute bullshit. A stalker would most likely not use the flight path of Swift’s private jet as a means of stalking her; it would be too cumbersome. Additionally, this is not “willful and repeated harassment” of Swift since Mr. Sweeny, as stated in the title and the article, obtained the information from public data provided by FAA. The intent of Mr. Sweeny’s tracking project was not to expose Swift to nefarious individuals but to expose the environmental impact of her private jet. The rich and famous are public figures and, as such, are open to criticism from the public. This is merely a flex (and a futile one at that) by someone with the resources to silence critics.

dan1101,

Yeah and how many different ways would a stalker have to find a famous person. She goes to concerts and events all the time, the stalkers know where those places are.

SpiceDealer,
@SpiceDealer@lemmy.world avatar

Exactly!

Empricorn,

Hey, Ms Swift…? I love some of your music and political opinions. But can you please go fuck yourself? Public = public. You have more privileges than most working people will ever earn in a lifetime, combined. And the climate emergency WE are all experiencing is irreversible…

crystalmerchant,

Oh it’s reversible all right… Earth will right the ship in its own time, after we’re gone

Dragonseel,

That fully depends on your definition of what the “reversed” state is. Will ecosystems adapt to the changed climate? Yes. Can temperatures even drop again? Sure. But species lost are gone forever. Ecosystems destroyed will never be the same again. Different ones can develop with enough time and stopping the human interference… But that is hardly “reversible”. That is… natural systems covering up the damage. Going on. Not reversing it.

Reddfugee42,

Carlin said it best. We’re not worried about saving the planet. We’re worried about saving ourselves. When the time comes, “she’s gonna shake us off like a bad case o’ fleas.”

guylikeyouandme,

Venus did not for example. Absolutely no reason why earth couldn’t spiral out of control in the same way.

NigelFrobisher,

Imma let you finish, but Tay-Tay has the most expensive legal team of all time!

Crafter72,
@Crafter72@lemmy.world avatar

I wish people understand that if you have any public/online presence, pretty much you can get tracked, especially in this age where ordinary people can track someone from their fingertips (and devices), for example Elon’s Jet which get tracked too using public data.

It feels like when someone use Facebook (or any big services), skipped EULA, and then complain that they’re being tracked…

just my 2cent from average joe.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I’m telling you she’s a proper cunt.

Xanis,

I didn’t see it mentioned in the article so I’ll just say it here:

Careful about assuming TW even knows about them. People with broad teams, and especially lawyers on hand, also sometimes find themselves with those teams acting on their own to the letter of their contract. You see it at times with legal teams of larger organizations. Not saying that’s the case here, just wanted to remind everyone to not take things at face value nowadays as it’s very easy to do.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I have no issue seeing this, based on her past behavior. Sometimes you get Lars Ulrich, or maybe it’s her handlers, but she always seemed on board with that. Regardless of her other positions, whoever gives a fuck about those.

adrian783,

then she should apologize and fire them lmao

ItsMeSpez,

Then she should put and end to this as soon as she becomes aware of it, or it’s the exact same thing as doing it herself.

Syndic,

Well if you don’t want your lawyers to do shit that puts you in a bad light, then you have to control them better. They literally only do what you tell them to do. So if you tell them to just deal with shit and don’t bother you about it, then you shouldn’t be surprised if it comes back to bite you in the ass. That’s just PR 101!

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