abmurrow,
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My journey with

Read about how powerful and unique it is

Install it

Finish the tutorial, read the docs, have a nice little time

Feel a little bit of strain in my hand and remember someone on Stack Overflow talking about "Emacs Pinky"

Stay up late reading about Emacs pinky

Gasp in horror at all of the hairbrained rebinds and custom tools that people have used to avoid Repetitive Strain Injury on Emacs

hmelman,
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@abmurrow I’ve used #emacs for almost 40 years without problems. All I’ve done is rebind caps lock to control.

etenil,
@etenil@emacs.ch avatar

@hmelman @abmurrow This. Caps lock shouldn't exist anyway. I was shocked when my son told me they were taught to use caps lock in typing lessons at school. Shift is much faster.

amszmidt,
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@etenil @hmelman @abmurrow The only correct order is like the one on the
#LispMachine .. Meta-Control-SPACE-Control-Meta- ...

But Caps lock could exist, if it was a small key ... maybe positioned around Num Lock (anyone remember that?).

simoninireland,
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@hmelman @abmurrow At least 25 years for me and I haven't even done that, with no RSI or any other problems. I'm half convinced it's mainly a matter of how ergonomic your keyboard is overall, not an #emacs thing at all

harish,
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@simoninireland @hmelman @abmurrow Same. And my keyboard is just a classic Mac keyboard.

deong,

@abmurrow The solution for me was to move to keyboard that leans heavily on thumb use. There are several, and my favorite is the Kinesis Advantage series.

It's an expensive way to solve the problem, but with or without Emacs, I've found it's just better, so I have zero regrets. But yes, while I love it, Emacs seems to require some form of mitigation.

howard,
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@deong @abmurrow I have done this too. A keyboard with "home row modifiers" is fantastic, and is the only way I can deal with the awful non-#emacs app interfaces I have to use.

greg,
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@howard @deong @abmurrow FWIW I have only ever remapped control to caps lock and have never had any problems with emacs-pinky in all the years I've been using it.

abmurrow,
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I'm getting the feeling this tool may just be ergonomically flawed in from the jump and the rebinds are just pushing the problem around the keyboard.

Even the Emacs wiki says the popular capslock rebind may GIVE YOU Emacs pinky.

abmurrow,
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For clarity, this isn't nerd sniping, I am genuinely impressed by Emacs and I'm kind of open to seeing what easy and non-insane things I could do to make it usable as an editor. Doom emacs and Evil look good, but I'm still a little worried about the default CTRL and META keys.

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