#capoeira question for practitioners: How would you train to respond to fast martelos and other front kicks? A classmate of mine can land a martelo or a bencao on me faster than I can react, and I'd like to solve the puzzle of what to do in response. They can even start a martelo with one leg and actually attack with the other leg if he sees an esquiva in progress.
This week I've been working on arm positions to catch/deflect martelos if I esquiva the wrong direction. What else?
@zompus Another good idea for fast games with freqnt direct kicks: use "esquivas do corpo" that are just minimal movemt to dodge (just the shoulder to the left ou the head down 3~4 inches).
And last but not least, if you're fast enough, move your body mass out of the central axis : martelo and benção are very narrow kicks, once you are out of their axis they are useless. Then only you can counter then safely with queida de martelo or a good old banda de costa
@pmartin Yeah I'm thinking that moving toward them might be my best bet. With the tournament practice we're being less "nice" to each other because that's closer to what we're going to face in the competition.
@pmartin Thanks, I have similar thoughts! I've been specifically training raisteria's this week but I'm very slow at them. My training partner is fast enough to see the rasteria coming and adjust to kick with the other leg so I get a martelo in the chest instead of towards my back. I've been working on training in arm position to block and catch the martelo in that case.
@zompus It may be a diff between our 2 capo school but for us a rasteira is so low on the ground that a martelo can't hit you during a it (except if it's done as a "low kick").
We do it by doing a quick dive down and back with at least 1 hand on the ground. But we have an "upper version" of it where you stand up (rasteira em pe) but it's way more dangerous because you can get hit in the chest as you said…
But I discovered other school don't call them the same or even don't differentate the 2
@pmartin Our school does do both the high rasteira and the low one. We don't have different names for them, I think we just call them low and high.
In drills last night I did the low one a few times with partners and it worked out well. For tournament play we're told not to go low, not to go to the ground, not to turn and show backs, etc, so low turning rastiera is less appetizing. I'll be happy when we're done with this tournament stuff, it's such an odd style.
@zompus I'm not a fan of tournament/competition in capoeira but you really seem to be taking the good stuff of it : you use it to improve your understanding of the came, of a peticular situation. For me thatzs the way to go ;)
When I can't go low… my moto is to go close and/or work on my esquiva do corpo as we discussed before, but that's me 😁
Your mind is on the right path you "just" need to get your body to follow it 😅 #keepUpTheGoodWork
@pmartin Thanks! I'm fortunate to have enough training time to adjust my focus slightly and come up with a different result. Last night I had better success with esquiva lateral and coming in close rather than moving away from kicks. I didn't get to play that one fast person, though, they had to leave early for something.
@zompus@pmartin This has been an interesting discussion to follow. I know exactly how I got to a place where I could start to esquiva efficiently, but I wouldn’t recommend the method. When I had a couple of years of experience I started to get more confident and that’s when people started to respond hard. I then ate a couple of handfuls of nasty kicks. That gave me the experience to recognise when a kick is going to be dangerous. I honestly don’t know a safe 1/*
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