OmaymaS,
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"What do you mean by progress when you talk about AI?" and progress for whom?

I asked the techno-optimist guy at an AI Hype Manel!

  • Does progress mean getting bigger or better models?

  • What about the impact on environment, water resources, destruction of communities, mining raw materials in Africa?

He first didn't get my Q. Then he said he believed in the "utilitarian view" & developing intelligence is very important.

Just parroting the AI hype people!

albertcardona,
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@OmaymaS

An AI hype guy was telling me today how AI replaces thousands of apps. I asked him (it's always a he) how many applications did he use in his laptop: 6. Seem unfazed. I asked then what applications he found useful, and after some discussion, it came down to drawing up posters, websites, and the like, for advertising, overcoming his lack of skills in the art department. I.e., spam, without an expectation of engaging with the recipients. Broadcasting. Indeed chat bots and generative AI are a boon to the spam industry.

It's hard to speak to the convinced. Guess when ChatGPT starts charging lots per subscription they'll rethink their starry-eyed stance.

OmaymaS,
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@albertcardona Yeah! People keep hyping up things in different ways!

But even if the performance was great and use cases were justified, I keep wondering how many people care about the harm subjected on other people or environment to achieve the "progress" they cheer for!

albertcardona,
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@OmaymaS

Indeed. And on that, any gains in efficiency of ANNs implementation or GPU tech are squandered by ever growing neural networks. The scale currently is horrendous; the electricity and water usage is outlandish. One wonders, was the choice of clean water or "AI", what would the fanboys choose then. At the moment they choose "AI" for themselves and water shortages for others.

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