Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

The normal thing on Reddit is to parrot the imperial line and ban socialists and their subs. This leaves a political chasm where fascism can be normalized. It’s usually not normalized so obviously as “look at these Nazis isn’t it cool that meemaw met this genocidal fuck” though. Most fascism of the empire is already mostly normalized and these folks just push for it even more: scapegoating immigrants, creating forms of acceptable racism against out-groups, promoting privatization, demonizing socialists, justifying settler-colonialism for their “friends”, blood & soil rhetoric, etc.

Two examples:

  • Frothing-at-the-mouth blood & soil rhetoric premised on Russophobia and giving Ukrainians the “white” treatment.
  • Pretending to care about Uyghurs while spending zero time researching it and only caring to the extent that they can hate China and fantasize about Balkanizing it.

Re: these particular posts, Reddit has been astroturfed for ages. In addition to oddly-timed posts, the dramatic difference in opinion and tone between large and established vs. and small or newer subreddits is massive. You’ll see polar opposite levels of astroturfing between “worldpolitics” (fashy chauvinist opinions and banning the left on sight) and “fauxmoi” (filled with better opinions that are common among 20-30 year olds). It’s kind of entertaining to explore why zoomers on a gossip subreddit are more politically informed and worldly than the “commenters” on a much larger subreddit dedicated to the topic. A lot of it does seem to be bots and left-punching directives from corporate.

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

Wow, what an answer. Thanks.

haui_lemmy,

As someone who has a semi-direct connection to ukrainian refugees: yes, they absolutely get the „white treatment“. But this has nothing to do with russophobia. Russia is as much the devil as google is. Same goes for china.

The issue with differently looking people with different religious views and non-central-european cultural values does correctly register as foreign. Everyone who says different lacks reflection.

It is the fact that people treat foreign as lesser that makes this world suck. We lack forced scientific education in public television. People who have no intention to read and educate themselves need to be taught that the earth is round, what fascists did to people and why you should wear a mask in tight public spaces, especially in winter time or if youre sick.

And the most disturbing part is that dividing left/right only helps those in power stay in power.

brick,

What does it mean to give Ukrainians the “white treatment”?

Maoo,
@Maoo@hexbear.net avatar

Westerners only care when white people die. Despite racism against Slavic people, Ukraine was white-ified for purposes of Russophobia and NATO.

VampyreOfNazareth,

Russians are descended from Rus viking, as white as they come.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

[Speaking as a user] Yeah, it looks inorganic for me too. As another user said the gold trim signals that the post was gilded, gilding nowadays works like a “mega-upvote” and gives it that trim. It’s possible that defenders of the Jewish genocide (Holocaust) and of the Palestinian genocide (the ongoing war) are dumping money in those posts, to promote their shitty discourses.

And that works really well in Reddit because the userbase there loves some oversimplification: they have a really hard time decoupling the Jewish people from the State of Israel.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

[Speaking as a mod] Given the topic I’ll be monitoring this thread carefully. As such, if anyone here is eager to either promote fascism (rule #1) or witch hunt (to point fingers towards other users based on assumptions or faulty reasoning - rule #1, rule #4): don’t. Also remember that the topic of this community is Reddit, there’s a lot of leeway for non-divisive off-topic but please don’t go overboard.

And if anyone here has concerns that some other user is doing either thing, please use the report button, OK?

pixelghost,
@pixelghost@hexbear.net avatar

The yellow means the post or comment has received “gold.” Basically, people paying to boost or highlight the post. Screams bot activity to me, or at the very least a very unsubtle propaganda post made by some underpaid Israeli keyboard warrior trying to further associate anti-Zionism to anti-Semitism.

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

propaganda post made by some underpaid Israeli keyboard warrior

Yes I have heard of this. They don’t even need to be Israeli.

www.mintpressnews.com/…/286099/

forward.com/…/shadowy-israeli-app-turns-american-…

blakeus12,
@blakeus12@hexbear.net avatar

how do these pictures associate anti-Semitism with anti-zionism

pixelghost,
@pixelghost@hexbear.net avatar

The pictures themselves are fine. It’s the fact that the posts are very similar, paid, and pushed to the front of a feed in a time when an ethnostate wearing the Jewish identity is carrying out a genocide on a captive population. It feels, as OP said, inorganic.

Of course the pictures could also be read as a reminder of what Jewish resistance really stood for, which would conversely carry a distinctly anti-Israel sentiment, and the optimist in me wants to believe that. I can’t see the comments on the posts, so I have no way of knowing for sure.

Omega_Haxors,

Yeah it’s normal. Reddit is a full on nazi bar with frequent fashbaiting. Sometimes i’ll check on my inbox to see if I got any notifications and it’s always some random assblasted fascist responding absolutely unhinged shit to a post I made a long ass time ago. I stopped getting them because i’ve been off for long enough that my posts are starting to become archived, so I don’t even bother to check anymore.

bartolomeo,
@bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

What’s fashbaiting?

Mammothmothman,

Children of spoiled upbringing spewing ignorant boot lick.

GoldenDoge,
@GoldenDoge@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s almost a tongue twister!

VampyreOfNazareth,

Trust fund activists

Omega_Haxors,

Posts designed specifically to get fascists aroused. Stuff like the roof koreans, “justice served” shit, and any form of racebaiting.

flooppoolf,

I laughed when I saw the pic. I imagined a neckbeard with glowing eyes thinking to himself “they’re gonna love that MY grandma knew hitler, it’s almost like I knew him”

GammaGames,

The gold trim is because the post got some kind of award (or whatever they’re called now).

Considering I’ve seen blatant racism on the front page with thousands of upvotes, I think that second post is pretty fitting for what reddit has become.

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