derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

I don't know Sonata Arctica and I didn't know about their existence until @Dad_Wood tooted about them.

Judging from the name and the artwork I expected Nightwish style melodic/symphonic metal from Finland 🇫🇮

Turns out the latter was correct, and for the other stuff?

Well, I guess I need to find out, and there is only one way to do this properly... #Metaljourney 🤘

Kicking things off with their debut #Ecliptica

🎵 Replica by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/y/qt7i9VGShZs

1/n

#TomsMusic

kreatorfangirls,
@kreatorfangirls@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas @Dad_Wood Okay, I'm getting on this journey too!

I first came across them over 15 years ago and I did like the couple of songs I heard then... but somehow never seeked to listen more.

Better late than never when it comes to expanding my musical horizon...

zm1,
@zm1@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas @Dad_Wood i can't listen to them! Really! That cheesy stuff makes me sick! A friend of me always wears a Sonata Artica shirt when we meet just to annoy me! That's what friends are for 😁

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@zm1 yeah if you don't like power metal, you'r gonna have a bad time with this 😂
I don't mind, sometimes it is nice to listen to, but I think I can only do 2 albums in a row before I need a break.
@Dad_Wood

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

2/n

...and is what I got.

That was a bit of a surprise tbh, but I like me some cheesy melodic riffs and vocals from time to time.

Overall is a solid album, a good and fun one time listen.

2.5 out of 5 wheels of frozen cheese.

🎵 Destruction Preventer by
https://song.link/y/KfwQXo0eqMg

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

3/n

Next up on my #SonataArctica #Metaljourney is Silence.

It starts with an atmospheric intro followed by the finest #PowerMetal riffs:

🎵 Weballergy
https://song.link/y/hdBYa_GAE2A

Now I know where Twilight Force got their inspiration from 🤘

#TomsMusic

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

4/n

An 11 minute epos closes Silence.

🎵 The Power Of One by
https://song.link/y/o7E4EnHQLfQ

The album is solid, a fun one time listen. 2.5 out of 5.

I think this was enough cheesy power metal for today, I can only take so much. I think I need some Motörhead now.

Ranking:

  1. Silence 2.5
  2. Ecliptica 2.5

An0n,
@An0n@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas
The interesting thing about Sonata Arctica is how much they change over the course of their albums. They start off as very power metal, but evolve in a way that can range from pleasing to deeply disappointing...I look forward to hearing your thoughts on their other albums!

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@An0n you know I listen to some power metal from time to time, but I dearly hope that what you said is true, because 11 pure power metal albums is a bit much for me.

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

5/n

Winterheart’s Guild is Sonata Arctica's third studio album and next on my

Let the madness continue ✨ 🤘 🎸 🧀

🎵 The Cage
https://song.link/y/sPGv2dbBmeY

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

6/n

Ok, Winterheart’s Guild is a weird album. There is so much cringeworthy cheesy stuff on it that makes me wanna stop listening. E.g. "Draw Me" is such an awful song.

But then there are some real bangers, like "The Cage" or this one:

🎵 Champagne Bath
https://song.link/at/i/1660699069

Skip that cheesy ballads and you have a good album.
But like this, best I can do is another 2.5 out of 5.

Ranking:

  1. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  2. Silence 2.5
  3. Ecliptica 2.5

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

7/n
Time to pick up where I left on my

Some of you wrote that Sonata Arctica has some style changes throughout their career.
Their 4th studio album "Reckoning Night" is, however, still very much
Well, at least the opener sure sounds like it...

🎵 Misplaced
https://song.link/y/pOxR5fIsnIQ

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

8/n
Ok now I can hear some changes. While song 2 (Blinded No More) is almost a hard rock ballad, the following songs add some proggy elements.

Like this one:

🎵 Don't Say A Word by Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/y/fLmr-D9xEoU

I like where this is going!

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

9/n
Wait, did I just hear Lemmy growl something?

🎵 Wildfire by Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/y/3AjQR_0GPcw

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

10/n

Shamandalie is what we call a "Schnulze" in German. It is also the closing track of Reckoning Night.

🎵 Shamandalie by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/y/-_3uhYCBMM0

I like where they are heading. There are still a lot of cheesy songs, but with all the proggy elements I like this album better than the first 3 on my #Metaljourney

Still 2.5 out of 5. Solid, but I probably won't pick it up again.

Ranking

  1. Reckoning Night 2.5
  2. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  3. Silence 2.5
  4. Ecliptica 2.5
derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

11/n

  1. Unia.

This sounds different.
This sounds better 🤘

🎵 In Black And White by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/y/3AfgGGno4ss

#TomsMusic #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

12/n

#Unia really is better. I see a new leader on my #SonataArctica #Metaljourney ranking coming.

🎵 It Won't Fade by Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/y/dWJoJUeod74

This song could almost be a Devin Townsend song.

#TomsMusic

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

13/n

I don't like cheesy ballads, and the closer of an otherwise good album is no exception...

🎵 Good Enough Is Good Enough
https://song.link/y/3LLHbBNGaS0

Other than that, #Unia is my favourite Sonata Arctica album so far. There is not much left of their power metal roots, except some keyboards and chimes. And the cheesy stuff.

Good album, 3.5/5

Ranking

  1. Unia 3.5
  2. Reckoning Night 2.5
  3. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  4. Silence 2.5
  5. Ecliptica 2.5

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas My favourite ❤️

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

14/n

Was an outlier and Sonata Arctica will return to sweet with the next album on my

"The Days of Grays" is up next, kicking off with an instrumental intro that doesn't answer my question yet. Maybe song 2 does? 👇

🎵 Deathaura
https://song.link/y/JjoUSLPidDc

Wait, there's a women on vocals. That's a new...

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

15/n

"The Days of Grays" sounds like the soundtrack to The NeverEnding Story.
Sonata Arctica brought back some cheese. But good cheese.

🎵 The Last Amazing Grays
https://song.link/y/wNbRYJaiVDY

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

16/n

Have you ever wondered what #DeathMetal sounds like, if you pour a ton of sugar on it?

I didn't, but this song sounds like it 👇

🎵 The Dead Skin by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/y/igehix4lFWk

Why does this work? How?
What a great song! 🤘

#TomsMusic #Metaljourney

derthomas, (edited )
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

17/n
My wife just asked me what kind of music this is, because I usually don't listen to this cheesy stuff 🤷‍♂️

Yeah.. Sonata Arctica's "The Days of Grays" is at least 3 songs too long.

I'd rate it 3/5.

Unfortunately these cheesy songs in the end ruin a better rating.

🎵 Everything Fades To Gray
https://song.link/y/NlbUVDDUVhc

Ranking:

  1. Unia 3.5
  2. The Days of Grays 3
  3. Reckoning Night 2.5
  4. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  5. Silence 2.5
  6. Ecliptica 2.5

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

18/n

After "Days of Grays" (and after I cleansed my plate with some Hellripper), it is time to move on to "Stones Grow Her Name" on my #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

The opener...

🎵 Only The Broken Hearts (Make You Beautiful)
https://song.link/y/rK88c-QAKbw

...sounds like a proggy hard rock song with trademark Sonata Arctica stuff (cheese, but weirdly interesting cheese).

#TomsMusic

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

19/n

I think Stones Grow Her Name is the romantic comedy in Sonata Arctica's discography.

Not a good one to be honest.

🎵 The Day
https://song.link/y/LfOQetCDu9k

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas, (edited )
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

20/n

Nope nope nope.

"Don't Be Mean" is one of the shittiest songs and "Stones Grow Her Name" one the worst albums I have listened to in a long time.

1 out of 5 starts (the lowest rating since I started rating).

Dear #SonataArctica stop doing that now or I will stop my #Metaljourney for the first time ever!

Ranking:

  1. Unia 3.5
  2. The Days of Grays 3
  3. Reckoning Night 2.5
  4. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  5. Silence 2.5
  6. Ecliptica 2.5
  7. Stones Grow Her Name 1

#TomsMusic

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas The worst album is yet to come, but also the second best (at least to me).

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@Dad_Wood oh lord... this was really painful to listen to, which is a shame, because they delivered good albums before.
So I guess you're also not too fond of Stones Grow Her Name?

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas Nope, second worst to me.

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

21/n

Yesterday's path on my ended with an all time low. Let's forget that and start fresh with "Pariah's Child", Sonata Arctica's 8th studio album.

It doesn't start with an intro track, but with a quite old school song:

🎵 The Wolves Die Young
https://song.link/y/YkuAYc2H1JE

...which 3 minutes in sounds like it could be on the soundtrack of Frozen (which I never watched).

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

22/n

hm... yeah... Pariah's Child doesn't move me much, but this is a decent song:

🎵 Half A Marathon Man by Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/y/wP6ycFFv8-U

"X Marks The Spot" is also interesting.

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas, (edited )
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

23/n

Pariah's Child sounds like Sonata Arctica are auditioning for the soundtrack of a Disney Movie (Frozen?).

I mean, listen to this...

🎵 Larger Than Life by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/y/C_pOpTyMszw

2 out of 5 <insert Blayne Smith skull rating joke here>

Yeah that's not for me.

Ranking:

  1. Unia 3.5
  2. The Days of Grays 3
  3. Reckoning Night 2.5
  4. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  5. Silence 2.5
  6. Ecliptica 2.5
  7. Pariah's Child 2
  8. Stones Grow Her Name 1

#TomsMusic #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

24/n

Moving on. The next album on my #SonataArctica #Metaljourney is "The Ninth Hour". After two terrible dissapointments, I am hoping for the best.

🎵 Closer To An Animal
https://song.link/y/_AEFmWBTJ7A

#TomsMusic

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

25/n

I enjoyed the first half of "The Ninth Hour".

And then comes this...

🎵 Candle Lawns by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/y/b_kDlAA5i2A

...and my toenails are all curled up.

#TomsMusic #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

26/n

Ok I have to confess, I never liked symphonic melodic metal. I never liked Nightwish or Within Temptation and consorts.

The Ninth Hour is exactly this. And suuuuper cheesy. Cringeworthy cheesy.

It has some good songs in the beginning though, that's why I'll give it 2/5.

Ranking:

  1. Unia 3.5
  2. Days of Grays 3
  3. Reckoning Night 2.5
  4. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  5. Silence 2.5
  6. Ecliptica 2.5
  7. The 9th Hour 2
  8. Pariah's Child 2
  9. Stones... 1

#TomMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

27/n

Addon to The Ninth Hour...

@Dad_Wood you made me listen to this band... you made me listen to THIS FUCKING SONG??? 👇

https://song.link/y/JwMH1tbayFs

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

...ok I am a bit dramatic now, they do have good songs and enjoyable albums. But gosh... their lows are really low. And corny.

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

Hadeur,
@Hadeur@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas @Dad_Wood Yikes.. :D

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@Hadeur ja, das ist gar nicht mal so gut. @Dad_Wood

Dad_Wood, (edited )
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas @Hadeur Nur die Harten und so weiter. 😂 Ersthaft: Manchmal brauch ich diese Band. Sie haben mit ihren zahlreichen Alben eine sehr große Hitanzahl und ich finde Tonis Stimme aussergewöhnlich. Mir machen sie zum größten Teil echt Spaß. Und live sind die super. Hang in there, nur noch 2 Alben 🤘

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@Dad_Wood das verstehe ich schon, die sind zeitweise echt kurzweilig und mir macht diese Metaljourney auch Spaß!
Manche Lieder sind nur extrem hart anzuhören, so kitschig ist das.
@Hadeur

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas @Hadeur Gut, du gibst dir halt auch die ganzen Diskografien en bloc. Das würde mir persönlich bei fast jeder Band schwerfallen. 😅

Cat Cheese GIF

derthomas, (edited )
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@Dad_Wood
Best of kann ja jeder 😉
Aber ja, es ist schon zeitintensiv und geht nur wenn ich mal Phasen mit weniger Meetings habe. Zu lange Pausen sind nämlich auch schlecht, dann verlierst du den Flow irgendwie. Aber es ist schon faszinierend zu sehen, wie sich eine Band entwickelt.
Bei Amorphis war es ähnlich. Meine liebsten Journeys waren Death, Carcass und Type-O-Negative. Und eigentlich auch Amorphis.
@Hadeur

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas @Hadeur Ich lese sie auf jeden Fall furchtbar gerne 🤘

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

28/n

Two albums left on my #SonataArctica #Metaljourney and I am wondering if they'll be able to make me like them again.

The album is called Talviyö and starts with a message from the sun.

🎵 Message from the Sun by Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/y/gEq5oTmycGY

#TomsMusic

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

29/n

Ok, so far Talviyö is less corny symphonicy than the previous albums. It's more on the hard rocky ballady side.

🎵 Storm The Armada by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/at/i/1471621326

I'd still wish for another Unia though...

#TomsMusic #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

30/n

Hey what's that? I like that one! 👇

🎵 Ismo's Got Good Reactors by Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/y/q-l_JLBJVPw

That's some really nice guitar works and.... and probaly my favourite #SonataArctica song on my #Metaljourney

But that song title confuses me tbh. Is Ismo the finish energy provider? And what reactors do they use that ares so good? 🤔

#TomsMusic

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

31/n

Talviyö closes with a typical Sonata Arctica style balad, however overall the album is less corny than the previous ones

There's some nice riffing which makes this album really enjoyable.

Overall a solid 3/5

https://album.link/y/OLAK5uy_mRanOGK8ck3YlMBImvh6viW6cudcdO5Vg

Ranking:

  1. Unia 3.5
  2. Days of Grays 3
  3. Talviyö 3
  4. Reckoning Night 2.5
  5. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  6. Silence 2.5
  7. Ecliptica 2.5
  8. The 9th Hour 2
  9. Pariah's Child 2
  10. Stones Grow Her Name 1

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

32/n

Here we are, "Clear Cold Beyond", the most recent #SonataArctica album and also the last album in my #Metaljourney

And it starts of great 🤘

🎵 First In Line Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/y/uQdTQm9Jq20

#TomsMusic

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

33/n

3 songs in and Clear Cold Beyond is already my favourite Sonata Arctica album.

The riffs hit harder, the pace is fast, the cheesy stuff is very reduced and the vocals are less annoying.

🎵 Shah Mat by #SonataArctica
https://song.link/y/149wEiyRQCk

...ok, not so fast, because it happened before that their albums started of great, only to develop into corny snoozefest later on.

But I am very optimistic with this one!

#TomsMusic #Metaljourney

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

34/n

Clear Cold Beyond was on its way to a 4 star rating (=great) , but then comes the second half that brings back the corny ballads (Teardrops, The Best Things, title track) and my rating drops to a (still good) 3.5/5.

Man there's so much potential for real greatness - but at least for me- they ruin it with their Diseny movie soundtrack stuff.

🎵 Angel Defiled by Sonata Arctica
https://song.link/at/i/1716785653

#TomsMusic #SonataArctica #Metaljourney

derthomas, (edited )
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

35/n

That was a wild ride with Sonata Arctica!

High highs, really low lows.

Clear Cold Beyond almost made the top spot. But only almost.

So, here is my final #SonataArctica #Metaljourney album ranking:

  1. Unia 3.5
  2. Clear Cold Beyond 3.5
  3. Days of Grays 3
  4. Talviyö 3
  5. Reckoning Night 2.5
  6. Winterheart's Guild 2.5
  7. Silence 2.5
  8. Ecliptica 2.5
  9. The 9th Hour 2
  10. Pariah's Child 2
  11. Stones Grow Her Name 1

And here is my Best Of playlist:
https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxxhndMTmJ3M0Ljhbz8sONoYDGIk5Q2cl&feature=shared

#TomsMusic

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas Cool. Your top 2 are my top 2 as well 🤘 I consider Talviyö to be their worst record, by far, though.

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@Dad_Wood yeah these 2 really stand out!

But Stones Grow Her Name over Talviyö?

I almost had to stop listening to Stones Grow... because I couldn't stand how cheesy it was.

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas Talviyö lacks pressure, intensity, riffs, edginess. I hardly remember any songs from that record. Stones is a record that I don't really understand. But at least it surprises me unexpected add-ons, like the banjo or with unusual songs like Cinderblocks or Shitload of Money. And I do like the (cheesy) ballad of I Have a Right. I simply love its message. Anyways: SA are the NGO in Heavy Metal. As a hopeless romantic and do-gooder, SA often hits my sweet spots.

SteVanDee,
@SteVanDee@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas once more, I totally agree. I enjoyed the „harder“ vibe a lot. And me too, I cannot understand, why they feel urged to have at least 2-3 ballads on EVERY album.
But maybe, that‘s how they define the „symphonic“ style of theirs. 🤷🏽‍♂️

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@SteVanDee my theory is that they have a lot of fanst who want exactly these ballads.

They should do a double album, one side only fast paced harder stuff, one side ballads.

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas I have a feeling ...

trendskater,
@trendskater@metalhead.club avatar
trendskater,
@trendskater@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas Komisch, ist doch ne suuuuper Band!

Happy Season 2 GIF by Law & Order

derthomas, (edited )
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@trendskater
Haha das definitiv mal eine andere Metaljourney.
Also die sind eine komische Band, die machen zum Teil so derbe kitschigen Scheiß... und dann hauen sie richtige Banger dazwischen raus.

trendskater,
@trendskater@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas Da gibt’s ja einige … Amaranthe fallen mir spontan ein, bei denen verirrt sich auch mal ein guter Song, hab ich gehört 😄

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@trendskater @derthomas Amaranthe is ja auch so ein Ding … aber zum Laufen auf den Ohren sind die super🤘

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@trendskater @derthomas Ich muss mir dringendst angewöhnen, meine Posts nach Autokorrekt-Fehlern zu checken BEVOR ich sie abschicke. Oh Mann!

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@Dad_Wood @trendskater also ich hätt gar keinen Fehler bemerkt.

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas @trendskater Is ja schon editiert gewesen 😉

SteVanDee,
@SteVanDee@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas I totally agree. Sonata Arctica has a few really brillant songs hidden between overly cheesy stuff.

To me, it‘s like root beer. Sometimes I‘d have a craving for it. After less than one can, I‘m fed up with it…😜

I am curious what you‘ll think about the current release, though.

derthomas,
@derthomas@metalhead.club avatar

@SteVanDee yeah I think my Sonata Arctica will be 🔥 because I cut out all the cheesy songs 😂

Dad_Wood,
@Dad_Wood@metalhead.club avatar

@derthomas Not really symphonic, but melodic, sometimes cheesy power metal with some progressive and „weird“ elements - especially on (my favourite record) UNIA. Enjoy🤘

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