danilo,
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the weirdest thing that has taken place in my life was reading valleywag throughout the aughts

with its excellent reportage of subjects the regular tech press wouldn’t touch

learning about how all these posturing tech guys were pretty sad and pathetic, and mostly winners of a random lottery

and now almost two decades later

these same pathetic guys are OBSCENELY powerful and wealthy

and still pathetic in ways the press remained reluctant to talk about!

Rycaut,
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@danilo Valleywag was excellent (I'm also biased @owenthomas - who is not really active here alas - is a friend and my former editor in college) but he and the others at Valleywag did a fantastic and much needed job covering tech.

But yes, it is sad that the horrible people seem to have in many ways "won" - I think there are plenty of exceptions but they get far less (attention, money, news cycles, followers etc)

danilo,
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such a POWERFUL inoculant against ever taking the “power” in tech seriously

and at the same time a deceptive one

these guys still won

won HUGE

and my assessing them as pathetic, however accurate, failed to prepare me for the fact that they would win anyway

danilo,
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is there a word for the grief of seeing the bad guys win?

asking for the whole fucking fediverse lmao

busticated,
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@danilo golden era for dipshits, sadly

alexch,
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@danilo when "greed is good" became a non-ironic motto and people used research on dark patterns as a trailblaze and not a warning, the grief of seeing the bad guys win by following the instructions we specifically meant as cautionary warnings was christened as "fucking techbros"

danilo,
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@alexch oooooof

Fucking fair

Elucidating,
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@danilo what's so wild about that era is that even the supposedly good people were partially in on the grift. Even Valleywag itself had third rails it wouldn't touch because that would threaten their funding model.

danilo,
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@Elucidating wait what were THEIR taboos?

Elucidating,
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@danilo You never saw them go after the egregious law firms, for example. The music industry was dumping tons of money and harassing tons of people in tech and it never got touched.

Also think about other outlets. E.g., the actual arc of MVC for example. Just wild stuff.

danilo,
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@Elucidating oh, sure

going after the law firms was an invitation to financial ruin

(which happened anyway thanks to Thiel, ironically. they would have been better served swinging for the fences the whole time)

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