stroughtonsmith,
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I think with Apple's latest changes to the Core Technology Fee, we're starting to see some of the elements that might actually work when all's said and done. Specifically, developers self-reporting company revenue — I think the only way to make the CTF fair is to have a flat fee, per year, that scales based on how much money your company makes. If you make $0, you pay $0. If you're Spotify, you pay $Ms. That takes away Apple's per-install tracking; devs don't need a nanny, they need a partner

archagon,

@stroughtonsmith Why should they get anything? Or, conversely, what argument is there for keeping macOS CTF-free?

Mayanja,

@stroughtonsmith They are doing this to block the Spotify's of this world. It's those type of apps that benefit from alternative app stores the most.

Uber won't mind because they don't have to pay the Apple Tax in the first place. So they have less reason to leave the app store in the first place.

As long as apple keeps discriminating between digital and physical goods the problem remains.

The CTF is abuse of power as it's based on an arbitrary distinction made by apple.

iKyle,
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@stroughtonsmith I'm worried they might get away with something like that. But I'm still fundamentally against Apple being able to tax developers at all.

Windows, macOS, Linux don't and have never worked that way.

You don't pay Google, Mozilla or Safari for your website being able to run on their browser.

I object to Apple being able to enforce a toll bridge between users and developers.

Not a payment processing fee, or a anything like that, just a pure tax just because.

hishnash,
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@stroughtonsmith I think per install is find as long as it is capped based on EU revenue. If you're a huge company but you just want to ship a small app for a tiny market on the side you should not pay the same as Meta.

stroughtonsmith,
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@hishnash if you're a huge company you can probably spin up a subsidiary just for the app in question, no? I don't think that’s punitive

mysk,
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@stroughtonsmith The amount owed to Apple should be capped at some point. It's unrealistic that if your business makes $∞, then you owe Apple $∞. Software licenses aren't based on income. In music production for example, you pay around $300 for a digital audio workstation (DAW), then you can produce a song that might make millions in revenues. You won't pay the DAW developer any cut of your revenues. Plus, macOS developers don't pay any CTF.

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