In case you missed it, Mastodon and the Fediverse have groups, which are really useful for discovering conversations on specific topics. They work equally well on all servers.
Is there a way I can suggest a few groups to the list? I've come to a point where I'm following groups all across the Fediverse 😁
I understood your stance on Lemmy, and I share the same opinion about the Lemmy devs and their 2 servers, having 1st hand experience with one of them. However, currently, Lemmy is the second platform in the Fediverse in number of active users after Mastodon. Moreover, some (former) Reddit Subreddit admins opened their own sister communities on Lemmy or created entire servers dedicated to a specific topic. Would it be ok to recommend these as well as long as they are not on lemmy.ml or lemmygrad?
@feditips@petrescatraian KBin is an unmoderated mess. So much so it's already been forked (MBin).
I don't understand your reluctance to promote Lemmy - the developers being tankies (which I'm assuming is the root of your dislike) are nothing to do with how the platform is used by non-tankies. Mastodon on the other hand has plenty of toxic instances and yet you're both on and promoting its use.
@feditips@petrescatraian well, I would. I would just think he was an idiot, not use his instance and join one that was doing some good things. Because the opinions of a developer of a piece of software that isn't profit motivated is largely irrelevant to me.
Surely the best 'revenge' against bad people is to use their product for good things? That's the mindset of the vast majority of Lemmy instance owners and that's what defederation is for.
@feditips@petrescatraian Ernst has done as good a job as he possibly can with KBin but his instance is a mess as he doesn't have time to Admin it. There's some very toxic communities on there. MBin seems to be taking a much more open and constructive development path.
re: Lemmy developers - who cares? It's impossible to live in the modern world without using/owning something made by awful people. They'll still be tankie idiots even if BBC profile them. Doesn't lend them as people any legitimacy whatsoever. And in the meantime, your stance is unfairly excluding people putting in a lot of work and effort to make good instances and Communities on those instances.
Surely thats what matters - the quality of the content, not who develops it.
"They'll still be tankie idiots even if BBC profile them."
That's not how it works. The more often someone is seen in a prominent position, the more legitimacy they receive in the eyes of the public and their followers.
"Surely thats what matters - the quality of the content, not who develops it."
The developers don't make the content, they make the framework that displays the content. They also promote specific instances on the platform's official site.
Lemmy is not going to get better if more people use it. The Lemmy devs will just get worse as their influence grows.
I will not promote any platform run by them. Their attitude to human rights is appalling. (I used to promote Lemmy until they revealed their true colours.)
If you know of a group you want to recommend, send me a message.
I have quite some tons of them, so brace yourself 😁
Numbers make no difference, might doesn't mean right. The devs are allowing really awful things to be spread on their servers.
Right, but it seems people are aware of this, which is why the biggest server and the most interesting content seems to be somewhere else (e.g. lemmy.world is the largest Lemmy server out there, which is not owned by any of the Lemmy devs. There is also @piracy which is really active and is created by one of r/piracy's former admins).
There are basically people that had no prior link with none of the main devs, nor they do support their views, yet they just wanted to find a better, more reliable refuge after the whole u/spez saga, and Lemmy happened to be the most reliable for them.
Again, I respect your opinion, but if you'll want to reconsider your choice in the future, that would be much appreciated as well. 😁
If more people use a FOSS platform, that platform's developers inevitably get more influence and tend to get more funding. That's how FOSS works, and that's usually not a problem.
In this particular case it (in my opinion) is a problem.
If development was done by someone else, for example through a fork, that might solve things.
For example, that's what happened when Audacity's owners went bad and the software was forked to @tenacity.
With due respect, I have ZERO trust in Lemmy admins (and its creators). It’s like a browser like Chrome blocking entire sites because they don’t like the dependencies/language or software used.
It’s the output of a Pleroma CLI command to check your server logs for troubleshooting. It shows that these lemmy instances have blocked the instance I’m running - not cribbing/whining as I’m done with that phase of #Fedidrama.
The Fediverse has opened the world for me of how divided the #FOSS community is nowadays. Yeah, the hate (strong word) for Big Tech is all that unites the community IMHO. But (at the same time) the crack is so visibly easy to exploit for anyone who wants to.
hi @Deus , question, do you think they want to block all pleroma-like instances ?
My pleroma instance is full of such errors as well, i thought that maybe lemmy has some bugs federating with pleroma and we are not enough or not enough vocal for this to be noticed.
There are other software on the fediverse which don’t seem to work well with pleroma, for instance i don’t seem to be able to follow a Castopod podcast account
I have no idea about the nuances. I first doubted if it was because I use Rebased+Soapbox and the devs at Lemmy have injected some code to block all Pleroma forks? See sample SS, for example. You know, similar to the soapbox.sh script that floated around sometime ago? But I can’t confirm.
Perhaps the ones using Akkoma + Mangane like @badri or @clovis could check their forks and chime in? In all honesty, I don’t have the time for shouting “discrimination discrimination” as that phase for me in the Fediverse is over. I’m just here to post some of my silly photography pics and watch some videos and pics. Add some laughter in between.
@Deus@clovis@petrescatraian@feditips@luca what's the command? I'm comfortable with the command-line and stuff but haven't looked to deeply into how exactly my instance is running on the technical side.
@Deus@clovis@luca aha, I just figured I could use the journalctl command too.
Can't see any Lemmy-related errors, but might be because I'm not (attempting to) federate with any instances yet? I'm the only one actively using this instance at the moment and I don't remember following anything on Lemmy; only made a few comments and votes here and there...
@Deus@clovis@luca I'm able to see users and stuff alright, so it might be some "likes" formatting issue like other folks are saying. (Anyone on Lemmy, please "like" this and send me a reply so I can check if it came through!)
@badri@Deus@luca same here, I can see users, and some posts but when someone is following a Lemmy user or community, the logs are spammed with transmogrifier errors.
When I speak about likes, it only a supposition, but what I know is that some activities aren't processed correctly, hence the errors :)
Did Kbin and Lemmy took inspiration from each other in some way and end up implementing exactly the same behaviour? And from the Pleroma/Akkoma side I guess it's because one started as a fork of the other 🍴
So https://lemmygrad.ml/ is based on lemmy and I’m seeing their posts on my Federated timeline. Link to post on my instance. I’m not even following this fellow’s Lemmy account 🤔
it’s a pity that two major popular fediverse projects do not federate well, i guess that’s impossible for a normie user to give enough details for opening a proper issue/bug lemmy side
Having and hardcoded wordlist is a terribly wrong thing to put on a software, if it’s there or still there. If it’s still there can be forked and having a compatiblie server for forums.
I would have never noticed because i’m not used to argue that unpolite with stranger people on such topics as motorsports or chess or books, or self hosting.
Every technical glitch between supposed compatible software is annoying and diminishing of the network effet
@0xtero I think the Kbin magazines are federated as well. But the way Kbin works is to separate posts without titles to a place called Microblog (e.g. check out kbin.social/m/AskKbin/microblo…) and those with titles into Threads (the only acceptable Threads, one might say 😉 /jk). Since Mastodon doesn't support titled posts, yours might reach in the former place.
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