tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

If they overpaid people who are struggling for money, and who have no choice but to spend that money, then that’s their problem. They need to correct the amounts in the future, suck it up and take the loss. I’m sure someone in the organization can be blamed and reprimanded.

We can take the excess out of the military budget, and try harder next time to make sure the math is right.

Maeve,

And foreign war aid, which idek where it comes from, other than poor people.

takeda,

I see people often mentioning military budget, giving impression that is the majority of spending, but for reference, this is how it stacks against other spending: …m.wikipedia.org/…/United_States_federal_budget#/…

punkcoder,
@punkcoder@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, something else that is really inconvenient for a lot of people, is the comparison between the amount of money brought in by corporations and income taxes and individual people.

PoopingCough,

What do you mean? From that wiki page it looks like personal income tax is more than 5 times what is brought in from corporations

takeda,

It came out many times that billionaires end up paying much lower rate of income tax than test of is or in some extreme cases none at all. Add to it that income from corporations is also quite small and it is clear that the middle class is actually paying for everything. We have billionaire freeloaders.

Coach, (edited )

I’m thinking that’s the point. Individuals carry five times the tax burden than corporations, yet we bend over backwards to protect corporations. Why?

IMHO, corporations are responsible for so many of the countries’ problems, while contributing very little in support. No wonder why people are waking up and saying “fuck corporations” (or at least, “fuck the corporate tax structure”).

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

3% of GDP is fucking massive. Also, if you read the fine print, any costs related to veterans are shunted over to nondefense discretionary payments or other mandatory payments, which is a neat little accounting trick. Defense costs don’t include veterans. So where else in the budget are we hiding the fact that we’re paying for our wars?

anon_8675309,

Don’t forget, however, that we have a specific tax just for social security and not the military. I think some republicans would like people to forget this and see everyone on social security as some burden on tax payers.

Coach,

The scale is skewed heavily to minimize the appearance of the “defense” budget. Wonder why?

CodeInvasion,

It’s literally an area chart. There’s no way to “skew” it in this format. $800B of $6,300B in spending is always going to be 12.6% no matter how you slice it.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Then why is the slice for defense smaller than Medicare despite being a bigger expense?

I think it’s fair to say it’s visually skewed.

hpca01,

I think it’s the kind of chart they used… You can’t fit 2 same sized circles like that… They could have used a bar chart.

Dark_Arc,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

That’s kind of the point… Using certain charts you can mislead people

pearsaltchocolatebar,

12.6% of the federal budget is extremely high.

tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

I doubt the military budget is properly spent. The joke about the $10,000 toilet seat isn’t a joke. Proper spending, accountability, and audits mean less wasted money, and that means more money to spend on other projects.

(2018) Following requests for an investigation from Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Air Force has clarified that it is no longer spending $10,000 for a toilet seat cover used on military planes. Instead, according to Air Force officials, 3-D printing now allows the Air Force to produce the spare part for just $300.

There’s a lot of this type of thing going on. Just wasted money. Who set up that contract, and what is their relationship to the supplier. I’m sure we will find lots of kickbacks, corruption, and nepotism.

Maeve,

Dark and slush funds. And the pentagon can’t seem to pass audits.

tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

I’m sure it’s every department down to the post office.

Maeve,

Well yeah. DeJoy, but I’m sore he’s not the only one.

girlfreddy, (edited )
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

The USPS passed its most recent audit in 2022.

The Pentagon hasn’t passed its last 6 audits.

tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Well, the USPS can’t say “that $700 billion” is classified.

girlfreddy,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

The Pentagon audits itself so that’s not a valid excuse.

tsonfeir,
@tsonfeir@lemm.ee avatar

Im sure the money just went missing. Endless black ops budgets.

hpca01,

Wow I’m surprised how low the corporate tax revenue is compared to everything else. Someone should really look at that.

Kid_Thunder,

It isn't as if these people were caught attempting to scam the system and they also happen to be a vulnerable part of the population, one that relies on the very system that is screwing them now.

We can bail out billion dollar companies and banks but we can't forgive these peoples' debts.

The answers shouldn't be "we're reviewing our policies" and "they may have misinterpreted a law. I'll look into it." There is no definite good solution or a plan of any substance in any of that.

eestileib,

Yeah they tried to screw me too; my congressional Rep’s office was able to help me clear it up.

Moira_Mayhem,

This is government approved class warfare

Mango,

This shit is why I won’t touch unemployment again.

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